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Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

WHO is a political organization with medical leanings just like Fox News is an entertainment channel that covers newslike topics.

Yes, there's a lot of information out there about SARS-COV2 and COVID-19 infections out there that are downright misleading at best and life threatening at worst.

No, censoring that content including videos is NOT the role of a hosting platform.

We already have examples of central authorities pushing "information" that they agree with and supressing information they believe is "incorrect" - as a freeish country, we should absolutely not encourage this behavior.

The argument can be made that Youtube is a private company and free to do as they please.

I personally dont agree with that argument - to a regular random person, Youtube is synonymous with video content.

Youtube is the news.

Perhaps one solution for Youtube would be to demonetize and label such content as "unsafe" aka "don't sue me bro mode".

Anyone who's a minor doesnt get to see this "unsafe" content.

Anyone who watches the content with "unsafe" mode on, sees the content.

Give customers the choice to choose and make up their own minds.

Removing content with the authority of being the primary video content platform? They don't get away so easy.

With power comes responsibility.

They have to handle this another way and this, is not it.

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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Things like this are tricky to me. YouTube is a private platform, so they can make their own decisions, but any sort of censorship is scary to me. I honestly don't know where to stand when it comes to issues related to censoring content like this. On one hand, you can limit information we know is false, but restricting spread of information is censoring people, something that is pretty widely regarded as oppressive.…

>On one hand, you can limit information we know is false, but restricting spread of information is censoring people, something that is pretty widely regarded as oppressive. Yes. But liars, cranks and con artists should be oppressed.

Who decides who the liars, cranks and con artists are?

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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I don't like this. All of the question of 'Why on earth choose WHO' aside...it is dangerous and depressing precident. I live with a number of ladies who are very familiar with plant medicine. When this whole thing started we all started taking lots of dandelion root / hawthorne tincture. Dandelion is well known to both help your lymphatic system and support respiratory issues. Hawthorne is an amazing heart / circulat…

> I feel sad that they are censoring people from sharing their own experiences in this time where are governments and medical systems are largely failing us.

Upvoted.

I don't feel sad, I feel outraged!

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22956536

To a regular random person, Youtube is synonymous with video content.

Youtube is the news.

Perhaps one solution for Youtube would be to demonetize and label such content as "unsafe" or don't sue me bro mode".

Anyone who's a minor doesnt get to see this "unsafe" content. Anyone who watches the content with "unsafe" mode on, sees the content.

Give customers the choice to choose and make up their own minds.

Removing content with the authority of being the primary video content platform? They don't get away so easy.

With power comes responsibility.

They have to handle this another way and this, is not it.

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

#24
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Fake news can't be solved with bans, only through education. Education is a long term investment though and everyone wants immediate fixes. Expect more of this nonsensical short term thinking.

> Fake news can't be solved with bans, only through education. Education is a long term investment though and everyone wants immediate fixes.

Upvoted!

I wish yours was the top rated comment and more thought like you.

Instaed we have views like this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22956485

Very concerning.

As I wrote here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22956536

To a regular random person, Youtube is synonymous with video content.

Youtube is the news.

Perhaps one solution for Youtube would be to demonetize and label such content as "unsafe" or don't sue me bro mode".

Anyone who's a minor doesnt get to see this "unsafe" content. Anyone who watches the content with "unsafe" mode on, sees the content.

Give customers the choice to choose and make up their own minds.

Removing content with the authority of being the primary video content platform? They don't get away so easy.

With power comes responsibility.

They have to handle this another way and this, is not it.

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>On one hand, you can limit information we know is false, but restricting spread of information is censoring people, something that is pretty widely regarded as oppressive. Yes. But liars, cranks and con artists should be oppressed.

Who decides who the liars, cranks and con artists are?

Exactly.

It's extremely upsetting to see decisions like the parent's.

What's more concerning is the tone is absolute - the intention is "I know exactly what is right and the world shall follow my lead".

That guy Gandhi causing all kinds of trouble! Ban his content!

That guy MLK causing all kinds of trouble! Ban his content!

That guy Edward Jenner with his braindead idea of vaccination proposing we infect ourseves to get better! Ban! Ban! Ban!

History has many examples what that thinking leads to.

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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I don't like this. All of the question of 'Why on earth choose WHO' aside...it is dangerous and depressing precident. I live with a number of ladies who are very familiar with plant medicine. When this whole thing started we all started taking lots of dandelion root / hawthorne tincture. Dandelion is well known to both help your lymphatic system and support respiratory issues. Hawthorne is an amazing heart / circulat…

Right in the beginning even the WHO knew little about Covid19 and transmissibility, mortality , etc., so anyone questioning their initial assertions would have been banned. That’s bad. The WHO is not an infallible know-it-all.

This is bogus.

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>On one hand, you can limit information we know is false, but restricting spread of information is censoring people, something that is pretty widely regarded as oppressive. Yes. But liars, cranks and con artists should be oppressed.

Who decides who the liars, cranks and con artists are?

Yeah, no... I'm not jumping down that rabbithole of thought-terminating cliches. HN is already replete with countless tiresome retreads of the same slippery slope arguments around freedom of speech, censorship, social media policies, whether truth even exists, Voltaire quotes and Orwell references. Feel free to browse if that's what you're looking for, they all devolve into the same unproductive quagmire.

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who decides who the liars, cranks and con artists are?

Exactly. It's extremely upsetting to see decisions like the parent's. What's more concerning is the tone is absolute - the intention is "I know exactly what is right and the world shall follow my lead". That guy Gandhi causing all kinds of trouble! Ban his content! That guy MLK causing all kinds of trouble! Ban his content! That guy Edward Jenner with his braindead idea of vaccination proposing we infect ourseves to…

You're equating people claiming vitamin C and turmeric will cure COVID-19 to MLK and Ghandi?

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who decides who the liars, cranks and con artists are?

Yeah, no... I'm not jumping down that rabbithole of thought-terminating cliches. HN is already replete with countless tiresome retreads of the same slippery slope arguments around freedom of speech, censorship, social media policies, whether truth even exists, Voltaire quotes and Orwell references. Feel free to browse if that's what you're looking for, they all devolve into the same unproductive quagmire.

An echo chamber sure feels good.

This is what I know - SARS-COV2 is novel and not even highly trained, world renowned infectious diseases experts know how it behaves and how to treat it.

I don't, for a second, believe Youtube has figured that one out.

Now whether you have decided to reject all competing hypothesis to something you have already decided to be the truth so you can move on with your life and be productive in areas you find valuable - that's your call but if I see you foisting your opinions on what kind of content I get to see, that's you infringing on my freedom and we have a problem.

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly. It's extremely upsetting to see decisions like the parent's. What's more concerning is the tone is absolute - the intention is "I know exactly what is right and the world shall follow my lead". That guy Gandhi causing all kinds of trouble! Ban his content! That guy MLK causing all kinds of trouble! Ban his content! That guy Edward Jenner with his braindead idea of vaccination proposing we infect ourseves to…

You're equating people claiming vitamin C and turmeric will cure COVID-19 to MLK and Ghandi?

I want people claiming vitamin C and turmeric will cure COVID-19 to have a voice.

Whether that voice has value is an individual decision you and I get to make, on our own.

What data do you have, that proves diferuloylmethane is ineffective in treating COVID-19?

Are you 100% sure that diferuloylmethane cannot be an ingredient in a battery of medicine to help recover from COVID-19?

This is what I know - SARS-COV2 is novel and not even highly trained, world renowned infectious diseases experts know how it behaves and how to treat it.

Not a central authority that removes that choice from both of us leaving us with no choice.

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