It does not look like it is available yet: https://releases.ubuntu.com/
I see it at that address now. Also at https://releases.ubuntu.com/focal/
Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)
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Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)
#302Was anyone able to run 18.04 or 20.04 successfully on a relatively modern desktop spec (AMD Ryzen 9 3950X / Nvidia 2080 TI / 32GB RAM / Custom water cooling) and two displays? I'm thinking of upgrading my development machine and running ubuntu only and I'm looking for some hints as to what could go wrong.
I've been running Ubuntu 19.10 on a Ryzen 3900X / Nvidia RYX 2070S / 64GB RAM, so close enough I suppose.
The biggest issue I can remember was weird issues with the graphics drivers a few times. Not quite sure exactly how it happened, but apparently I had a pretty wonky installion at first. I uninstalled and installed the nvidia drivers through `apt`.
Other than that, I have an unsolved problem of random, occasionally reboots, mostly which conveniently happen when I'm away from the PC. Everything goes back to normal after rebooting and it usually doesnt do it again for a while. I havent managed to solve this, but I'm assuming it's a rather localized problem.
Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)
#303Earlier quoted context omitted.
I hate snap. It makes my system less predictable, increases load times, makes UI stuff look ugly, obfuscates process monitoring, hogs memory, cannot deal with files in /tmp (and I happen to use /tmp a lot), makes if hard to do audio (like connecting a mic to Chromium)... I can go on. But in 2019 versions of buntu it could still be removed: https://github.com/cies/kubuntu-setup#remove-snap I found a way to use Debian…
Out of curiosity, do you feel the same way about Flatpak?
On that note, what requirements pushed Ubuntu to select snap over flatpack?
Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)
#304I fondly remember the free CDs in early Ubuntu days.
Is it actually possible to buy an "official" USB/DVD of Ubuntu these days?
When I say buy I mean most of money would go to support Canonical.
There used to be such an option about 10 years ago but I guess there is very little demand.
The world has moved onto mostly online distributions.
For some reason I still do yearn for the world of "touchable" official software - the world of 6 foot long Borland C++ manuals.
PS One of honorable sources - https://www.osdisc.com/ - closed last August
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The only thing that holds back my Employer to switch to Linux for 6500+ Desktops is Microsoft Office and full MS Exchange compatibility. The Collegues who need Adobe Products just have to work with Apple Machines anyway.
Just switch to LibreOffice. The dependency on .docx/.xlsx is an overblown propaganda. I personally had a business in 2007..2011 that replaced windows for Linux. All that time I heard that same old song again: "But but MS Office is so essential!". Turned out, not so much, on over 5000 PCs in several dozen companies. Update: business eventually failed, for one simple reason - Ubuntu Linux is too freaking stable. The id…
Nothing, not LibreOffice, not Google Sheets, not Excel for Mac can replace Excel for me. It's wonderful, they keep adding features and I know all the quirks like the back of my hand. If I ever swap to Linux on the desktop, I'll keep a VM around just for Excel.
Word is nice too, although that I could probably change that rather quickly (word processing is not hard to get right).
Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)
#306Earlier quoted context omitted.
Out of curiosity, do you feel the same way about Flatpak?
On that note, what requirements pushed Ubuntu to select snap over flatpack?
Well for one they control it. But a good advantage that it has over flatpak is that flatpak cannot run on servers while Snap can, though it doesn't sound like it's enabled for servers in this release?
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I can `apt install` pretty much anything I want and it's almost guaranteed to not be malicious/dangerous, as only trusted/well-established developers can get their package into the Apt repos. Maybe not malicious, but packages in the universe repos only have 'community maintenance', meaning that they are not updated with security fixes in any systematic manner. Given that you need universe to have a somewhat useful sy…
> meaning that they are not updated with security fixes in any systematic manner. Interestingly, that exact thing was always my worry about Snap (or Flatpack) as well. Sure, big-name software such as Spotify will keep their Snap package well in order; they've got both the incentive and manpower to do so. (Incidentally, they could also use this manpower to build distro-specific packages). But what about all the little…
Spotify aren't doing a great job with their Snap, it's been a few versions behind Mac and Windows for a while now. They could do with more dev manpower.
Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)
#308Finally with more recent (4.08.1)[1] OCaml version, even though significantly behind upstream (4.10.0 - was released in June 2019!)[2]. The problem with Debian and all distributions based on it, including Ubuntu, is the ancient versions of the software.
Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)
#309Earlier quoted context omitted.
> meaning that they are not updated with security fixes in any systematic manner. Interestingly, that exact thing was always my worry about Snap (or Flatpack) as well. Sure, big-name software such as Spotify will keep their Snap package well in order; they've got both the incentive and manpower to do so. (Incidentally, they could also use this manpower to build distro-specific packages). But what about all the little…
Spotify aren't doing a great job with their Snap, it's been a few versions behind Mac and Windows for a while now. They could do with more dev manpower.
Heh, interesting, didn't know that.
I was just trying to pick a random example.
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#310Earlier quoted context omitted.
What do you mean? I'm assuming that this is a Snap Store feature? My concern is really more about the command-line, as that's how I (and probably most technical users) install packages.
I guess my reply should be one level lower, it was an answer to "It looks like deb files only can be installed via the terminal."
I think OP is refering to snap being the default application install in the gui now rather than apt.