Was anyone able to run 18.04 or 20.04 successfully on a relatively modern desktop spec (AMD Ryzen 9 3950X / Nvidia 2080 TI / 32GB RAM / Custom water cooling) and two displays? I'm thinking of upgrading my development machine and running ubuntu only and I'm looking for some hints as to what could go wrong.
Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)
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Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)
#242Most reviews are very positive. Faster, better, Amazon removed, maybe the best Ubuntu release until now. The only 'con' is the pushing of Snap packages. It looks like deb files only can be installed via the terminal. Ubuntu is also researching if they can get Adobe on board. I doubt this would ever happen, but that would be huge. Most people stick on Windows and MacOS because Adobe software is not available on Linux.…
> The only 'con' is the pushing of Snap packages. It looks like deb files only can be installed via the terminal. My main concern with Snap is security. Using the default Ubuntu Apt repositories, I can `apt install` pretty much anything I want and it's almost guaranteed to not be malicious/dangerous, as only trusted/well-established developers can get their package into the Apt repos. However, with Snap, everybody in…
This could be fixed by separating the store into an "official" repo that only includes trusted apps and an opt-in "community" repo with the rest.
It's not really an issue with snap itself.
Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)
#243Earlier quoted context omitted.
As someone who uses Ubuntu on multiple machines, does this and uses a high DPI laptop display AND an external display, this only sort of works and the outcome is much worse than what Windows or MacOS do out of the box. Honestly, I don't get how the Ubuntu ecosystem is so much worse at handling something so basic, when other OSes have had almost no issues with it for over a decade..
I use external screens just fine. I can't even think of a situation that's a big issue: - 4K laptop screen and 1080p external, just use integer scaling - 1440p laptop screen and 1080p external, use 1.3x font scaling and everything looks fine I currently have a 1440p laptop, a 4K external, and a 1280x800 projector in my work-from-home setup. The external screen replaced a 1200p one before. I use sway that supports fra…
> I use sway that supports fractional scaling per screen in whatever setup I want.
So not x11/xorg, but Wayland? I recently switched from xorg/i3 to wayland/gnome on 18.04 - and while I miss the tiling, external screens behave a bit better. I'll probably try sway/Wayland when I have the time to upgrade to 20.04.
> And yet I prefer to just set 1.3x font scaling for everything and not touch the scaling at all.
Doesn't fonts end up too big on a typical 21" 1080p display?
Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)
#244Earlier quoted context omitted.
I understand the hate for snap (and flatpak) and I personally use deb as much as I can, but they are the right move. Yes, right now it's a subpar experience. But you need to deploy it now to be able to improve on it and have it as the default in the future. And I believe it's a better future, because: - packaging a deb is difficult. I've done it, and it's a lot of complicated hard work you get to repeat for every rel…
> packaging a deb is difficult. I've done it, and it's a lot of complicated hard work you get to repeat for every release for anything that is not a simple program Right, but the point of a high-quality distribution is that this complicated hard work only needs to be done once (per package, updated for upstream changes obviously) by your distribution's package maintainer. Then it scales for free. That's the beauty.
But your distribution's package maintainer has limited bandwidth, there's only so much software they can support. At some point you need a way for developers to do it themselves.
Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)
#245Most reviews are very positive. Faster, better, Amazon removed, maybe the best Ubuntu release until now. The only 'con' is the pushing of Snap packages. It looks like deb files only can be installed via the terminal. Ubuntu is also researching if they can get Adobe on board. I doubt this would ever happen, but that would be huge. Most people stick on Windows and MacOS because Adobe software is not available on Linux.…
> The only 'con' is the pushing of Snap packages. It looks like deb files only can be installed via the terminal. My main concern with Snap is security. Using the default Ubuntu Apt repositories, I can `apt install` pretty much anything I want and it's almost guaranteed to not be malicious/dangerous, as only trusted/well-established developers can get their package into the Apt repos. However, with Snap, everybody in…
there's debian!
Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)
#246Most reviews are very positive. Faster, better, Amazon removed, maybe the best Ubuntu release until now. The only 'con' is the pushing of Snap packages. It looks like deb files only can be installed via the terminal. Ubuntu is also researching if they can get Adobe on board. I doubt this would ever happen, but that would be huge. Most people stick on Windows and MacOS because Adobe software is not available on Linux.…
What's keeping Adobe from releasing Photoshop for Ubuntu ? Convincing ? Or real technical difficulties ? Like recoding the interface ?
They're probably just not willing to absorb the support costs for such a small market.
Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)
#247Was anyone able to run 18.04 or 20.04 successfully on a relatively modern desktop spec (AMD Ryzen 9 3950X / Nvidia 2080 TI / 32GB RAM / Custom water cooling) and two displays? I'm thinking of upgrading my development machine and running ubuntu only and I'm looking for some hints as to what could go wrong.
Personally I won't upgrade until NVIDIA releases their next CUDA version officially for 20.04. Past experience leads me to believe that otherwise I can run into a few unpleasant surprises.
Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)
#248Was anyone able to run 18.04 or 20.04 successfully on a relatively modern desktop spec (AMD Ryzen 9 3950X / Nvidia 2080 TI / 32GB RAM / Custom water cooling) and two displays? I'm thinking of upgrading my development machine and running ubuntu only and I'm looking for some hints as to what could go wrong.
It's at least easy to run live from USB, and see if anything pops out.
Ed: i would probably go straight for 20.04 on a fresh install - but heed sibling comment about nvidia drivers. Might run fine on open source drivers until proprietary ones gets an update (fine, but slow).
Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)
#249Ubuntu has been regressing on the server side for a while. 1804 introduced netplan, a proprietary wrapper around systemd-networking. Going back to /etc/network/interfaces is an uphill struggle, but it is required for some functions.
This time they've removed debian-installer, so it's no longer a matter of a new kernel/initrd/preseed file. On top of that, the automation has only appeared in the last few days.
Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)
#250Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't see what that has to do with the post you replied to.
I'll enlighten you. About twenty years ago people used IIS for web-servers, encumbered in costly licenses, for everything, and progress goes on. That's the point man. Time goes on, and things gets better. Hope you see now. That was the point, anyways. I really hope it helps. Progress goes on is just the general point. Nothing else intended. Should be clear enough.
Lots of people still use IIS for web servers