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Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by Aeolos »

encom wrote: post #130
bragh wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hope the HiDPI support is improved now. Right now, when I use fractional scaling on 19.10, none of the display settings get saved and so after a restart, I have to readjust all of the layout, orientation and scaling for displays. Pretty annoying for a dual-boot triple display system. edit: Nevermind, seems that it got even worse for my case: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1... https://bu…

Try using mixed DPI displays. My main display is 27 inch 4K display, and on the sides I have old 19 inch 1280x1024 displays, used for IRC, music player, process monitor, email etc. Stuff I glance at from time to time. _NOTHING_ supports this setup properly. Even Windows has bugs galore as soon as you mix high and low DPI displays. I don't believe anyone ever tests this scenario. I've learned to tolerate and work arou…

I am using a 1200p, a 1800p and a 2160p monitor side-by-side on MacOS and it works fine. The 2160p monitor is rotated to portrait mode for reading/writing text documents. I can hotplug a monitor and it will automatically switch to the right layout, remembering the correct location for all open windows.

I am using a 1080p and a 2160p on ArchLinux/Wayland/Gnome3. It's not perfect, but it's not unusable either (compared to X11, which was completely broken).

Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by viraptor »

Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #48
coinerone wrote: post #39

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The only thing that holds back my Employer to switch to Linux for 6500+ Desktops is Microsoft Office and full MS Exchange compatibility. The Collegues who need Adobe Products just have to work with Apple Machines anyway.

Just switch to LibreOffice. The dependency on .docx/.xlsx is an overblown propaganda. I personally had a business in 2007..2011 that replaced windows for Linux. All that time I heard that same old song again: "But but MS Office is so essential!". Turned out, not so much, on over 5000 PCs in several dozen companies. Update: business eventually failed, for one simple reason - Ubuntu Linux is too freaking stable. The id…

> The dependency on .docx/.xlsx is an overblown propaganda.

It depends on the company. One will use it as a glorified letter composer. Another has a sharepoint integration with version control and documents with ActiveData integration into SQL servers and (literally) thousands of lines of scripting.

Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by Osiris »

If you usual from scratch you can use ZFS as the root filesystem and until will automatically create snapshots before software updates.

The feature is still experimental but has been working well for me during the beta period.

Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by qznc »

Tenoke wrote: post #93
jpsnz wrote: post #66

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From the link, I had to run sudo do-release-upgrade -d to get mine to upgrade.

I'm always wary of upgrading from an LTS to the next one instead of preinstalling from scratch. Did you run into any issues?

For LTS Ubuntu triggers an update once the .1 release is out in July maybe. I did the last two upgrades from LTS to LTS that way on my laptop and had no issues.

Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by netheril96 »

theelous3 wrote: post #102
coinerone wrote: post #96

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Have you ever tried to open an Excel Sheet from 2002, that one that is existencially important for the whole success of the company :), with makros as big as the Windows Codebase itself, in Libre Office? I can tell MS Office will not leave the field.

Sounds like something a human wouldn't have any use looking at anyway. Multi gb excel files? This is what programming is for.

Reality does not work in the way you wish it to.

Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by miiiiiike »

thdrdt wrote: post #2

Most reviews are very positive. Faster, better, Amazon removed, maybe the best Ubuntu release until now. The only 'con' is the pushing of Snap packages. It looks like deb files only can be installed via the terminal. Ubuntu is also researching if they can get Adobe on board. I doubt this would ever happen, but that would be huge. Most people stick on Windows and MacOS because Adobe software is not available on Linux.…

I've been using 20.04 since the early betas and Ubuntu since the first release. I haven't been this impressed with an Ubuntu release since that first install.

Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by shasheene »

zyga wrote: post #79
Jean-Philipe wrote: post #31

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> The only 'con' is the pushing of Snap packages. I don't get why they're doing that. Snaps have mostly created problems for me, like they don't scale when other apps do, or the styling is off, or they don't show up properly in the software manager. The snap daemon on one of my laptops always blocks the shutdown by 30 seconds. Generally a rather confusing experience.

It's still work in progress but snaps genuinely make packaging easier. There are rough edges, especially on the desktop, but those are all being worked on, in collaboration with flatpak actually. It will take a while but in the future it will not be any worse at runtime and it will be much, much easier to package and run apps across releases and OSes

Also not yet possible to install a snap using a chroot yet : https://bugs.launchpad.net/snappy/+bug/1609903 (the bug has been open for 3 years). Chroots are a key mechanism to building any customized Linux image.

I hope they smooth these rough edges further before they push more snaps onto the world.

Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by SCdF »

Jean-Philipe wrote: post #31
thdrdt wrote: post #2

Most reviews are very positive. Faster, better, Amazon removed, maybe the best Ubuntu release until now. The only 'con' is the pushing of Snap packages. It looks like deb files only can be installed via the terminal. Ubuntu is also researching if they can get Adobe on board. I doubt this would ever happen, but that would be huge. Most people stick on Windows and MacOS because Adobe software is not available on Linux.…

> The only 'con' is the pushing of Snap packages. I don't get why they're doing that. Snaps have mostly created problems for me, like they don't scale when other apps do, or the styling is off, or they don't show up properly in the software manager. The snap daemon on one of my laptops always blocks the shutdown by 30 seconds. Generally a rather confusing experience.

> The snap daemon on one of my laptops always blocks the shutdown by 30 seconds

Oh THAT'S why that happens sometimes. I never bothered debugging it.

Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by readwind »

BiteCode_dev wrote: post #164
thdrdt wrote: post #2

Most reviews are very positive. Faster, better, Amazon removed, maybe the best Ubuntu release until now. The only 'con' is the pushing of Snap packages. It looks like deb files only can be installed via the terminal. Ubuntu is also researching if they can get Adobe on board. I doubt this would ever happen, but that would be huge. Most people stick on Windows and MacOS because Adobe software is not available on Linux.…

I understand the hate for snap (and flatpak) and I personally use deb as much as I can, but they are the right move. Yes, right now it's a subpar experience. But you need to deploy it now to be able to improve on it and have it as the default in the future. And I believe it's a better future, because: - packaging a deb is difficult. I've done it, and it's a lot of complicated hard work you get to repeat for every rel…

I agree with almost everything you say, and, yes, people used IIS, windows, as webservers, only not-long ago, so, let's hope for progress. Totally agreed.

Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by galacticdessert »

bragh wrote: post #13
thdrdt wrote: post #2

Most reviews are very positive. Faster, better, Amazon removed, maybe the best Ubuntu release until now. The only 'con' is the pushing of Snap packages. It looks like deb files only can be installed via the terminal. Ubuntu is also researching if they can get Adobe on board. I doubt this would ever happen, but that would be huge. Most people stick on Windows and MacOS because Adobe software is not available on Linux.…

I hope the HiDPI support is improved now. Right now, when I use fractional scaling on 19.10, none of the display settings get saved and so after a restart, I have to readjust all of the layout, orientation and scaling for displays. Pretty annoying for a dual-boot triple display system. edit: Nevermind, seems that it got even worse for my case: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1... https://bu…

You might want to give KDE Plasma a shot: it handles scaling quite well.

I find it much superior wrt Gnome, but that's a matter of preferences of course.

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