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Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by bArray »

doublesCs wrote: post #32

For a long time I've been using Lubuntu on my laptop. However, a couple of years ago they changed focus and From wikipedia: Lubuntu was originally touted as being "lighter, less resource hungry and more energy-efficient", but now aims to be "a functional yet modular distribution focused on getting out of the way and letting users use their computer" I stopped updating my OS since (I'm on 14). Does anyone care to sugg…

Just take Ubuntu Server and throw a light window manager on top. Ubuntu Server is pretty lightweight as is and there are still some very nice lightweight window managers out there.

Something like WM2 is ultra low [1], but watch out if you're running a laptop as you won't get battery monitoring!

[1] http://www.xwinman.org/

Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by philcrump »

doublesCs wrote: post #32

For a long time I've been using Lubuntu on my laptop. However, a couple of years ago they changed focus and From wikipedia: Lubuntu was originally touted as being "lighter, less resource hungry and more energy-efficient", but now aims to be "a functional yet modular distribution focused on getting out of the way and letting users use their computer" I stopped updating my OS since (I'm on 14). Does anyone care to sugg…

I've enjoyed Xubuntu 18.04 for the light-ness. I pull the taskbar down to the bottom of the screen, swap out the "Whisker menu" for the more classical "Applications Menu" and I'm happy.

It has been pointed out to me that this produces effectively a reskinned Windows98 experience, I'm not unhappy about that.

NB: Have not tried any 20.04 versions yet.

Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by readwind »

petre wrote: post #43
readwind wrote: post #12

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The negatives, of snap, at least, was that most apps became 'un-skinned,' and looked like unthemed things you'd launch directly in an X11-session so they look like their base-worst, and so on, in my experience. - The first Ubuntu LTS I tried that had snap even had problems with the [snap-packed] calculator, which for some dumb reason was a snap-app instead of a .deb, I'm talking the main included/internal calc-app, a…

Snaps also create a myriad on mount points which is quite annonying. I like Appimage though.

Tell me about it df -m was like myles long. And it [meaning snap] had separate auto-update procedures and janitorial daemons, which I had a hell of a time removing and disabling etc. I guess the best thing about snap is that you can uninstall all of them, I hope, and find the alternatives of the same features either in the main repositories or through every-lovable ppa. I loved 12.04 LTS, 14.04 LTS, even, but, this is too much. I had to leave man. Had to be there to know it.

Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by Aissen »

LeonM wrote: post #22

Looking through the features Gnome 3.36 - X11 fractional scaling. I got all excited, because this means that now finally Ubuntu will be usable on my Lenovo X1E with High-DPI display. But then further down below: Fractional scaling does not work with the NVIDIA proprietary driver (bug 1870736, bug 1873403). OK, nevermind, back to Windows with WSL...

Yet another proof that proprietary drivers are hindering innovation and holding back Linux desktops, not helping them.

Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by suby »

oaiey wrote: post #34
gerdesj wrote: post #4

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"It looks like deb files only can be installed via the terminal." There's another way?

Even as a Windows guy, I was wondering: Why would you use anything else than the terminal? When you understand deb packages then you only want the terminal. Everyone else, will want to use a UI and will have no idea what a deb file is.

Everyone understands the paradigm of double clicking an icon to launch the program or an installer. Many aren't going to understand the exact command they need to type into a terminal to get it to do what they want. This is almost always the answer for why people don't want to resort to using a terminal, discoverability. You can look it up, of course, but there's no good reason imo to not include GDebi for users unfamiliar with that workflow. Other distributions have it by default, but Cannonical is favoring their own tech here over the needs of the users. One more useless roadblock.

Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by pedrocr »

LeonM wrote: post #22

Looking through the features Gnome 3.36 - X11 fractional scaling. I got all excited, because this means that now finally Ubuntu will be usable on my Lenovo X1E with High-DPI display. But then further down below: Fractional scaling does not work with the NVIDIA proprietary driver (bug 1870736, bug 1873403). OK, nevermind, back to Windows with WSL...

Just set font scaling to 1.3x or whatever it is you need and everything works great. I've been doing that for many years for 1440p in a laptop.

Ubuntu actually regressed there since switching back to GNOME from Unity. In Unity font scaling was neatly exposed in the same slider as integer scaling and all apps used that setting. Now I have to set one thing for GNOME and another for Firefox to get the same effect. "Proper" fractional scaling is a waste of resources in most situations. It's only really worth it if you want really consistent sizing of things when you have several screens with very different DPIs.

Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by jakear »

capableweb wrote: post #6
gerdesj wrote: post #4

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"It looks like deb files only can be installed via the terminal." There's another way?

Oh yeah, used to be at least two more ways. Not sure which one of these are not possible but anymore, but you used to be able to do: 1) Synaptic package manager which is a GUI for searching and installing .debs. My first exposure to a package manager when I first installed Ubuntu some 12 years ago. 2) Simply double-clicking on the file, opening the Gdebi (I think?) UI for installing that specific .deb file.

In my experience, simply double clicking on the file never actually worked for installing debs. The UI would pop up, give me a nice pleasant "Install" button, but clicking it would either no-op, crash the UI, show a progress bar that stalled out, or act like everything worked perfectly but not actually install it. Command line install works flawlessly every time.

Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by jakear »

LandR wrote: post #7
gerdesj wrote: post #4

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"It looks like deb files only can be installed via the terminal." There's another way?

In 18.04 you can install via the Software Center

This almost never actually worked in my experience. It was more of an annoyance than not even pretending to work, because I'd take time trying to get things to install in the UI and they wouldn't work before I eventually needed to revert to CLI.

Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by graynk »

globular-toast wrote: post #27
LeonM wrote: post #22

Looking through the features Gnome 3.36 - X11 fractional scaling. I got all excited, because this means that now finally Ubuntu will be usable on my Lenovo X1E with High-DPI display. But then further down below: Fractional scaling does not work with the NVIDIA proprietary driver (bug 1870736, bug 1873403). OK, nevermind, back to Windows with WSL...

Throw your nVidia card in the bin and be free. After many years with nVidia I removed the card and I've been happily using Intel hardware for a year now.

Because God forbid you actually have to use the card you paid for, oh no, we can't have that. No one should work with machine learning, edit video or play games, Intel HD should be enough for everybody /s
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