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Re: The 2020 iPhone SE

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I bought one old SE from the final batch, just because the 113g, its dimensions are perfectly fine with me. I'd like to write some AR code (and might buy an 2020 SE for that), but for normal use, the SE for me is peak iPhone/smartphone.

Re: The 2020 iPhone SE

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I've upgraded my iPhone five times, just recently to the SE, and each time it's been exclusively for the camera. Literally exclusively, since in many other respects the functionality is going in reverse (loss of home button, touch ID, headphone port, etc.) I swallow it all for a better camera.

You know you can get cameras now without a phone bundled with them.

I have a 16x20 print on my wall from a 6x7cm negative I took with a Mamiya 7 camera and lens. The print is sharp even under a 10x loupe. This was an image I envisioned in my head, waited for the right time and light, set up on a tripod, took 3 exposures, developed the film and printed with an enlarger.

Still, 80% of the pictures of my kids are on my phone, since the moments pass in an instant, and my phone is always with me.

Re: The 2020 iPhone SE

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This is a fair point but everything is online and at our finger tips. Having it on your phone just means you’re not sitting at your computer for longer hours, hurting your back, neck and even fingers.

Aren't there some of the same "wellbeing" issues with the prolonged or ergonomically wrong use of a mobile phone too? Neck, fingers, eyes?

RSI's are a result of prolonged use of the same apparatus, switching to phone after long day of computer use would help in that case. Doesnt help with the eyes or the forward head posture, i agree.

Re: The 2020 iPhone SE

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Yeah whatever. One thing all the iPhone SE reviews from the pundits I've read miss is how Apple, mighty Apple, with all it's brand loyalty and design excellence was forced by the market to take a stable version of the design and release it for a third of the cost of its flagship. Reasons? * iPhone sales have been dropping consistently. * No new gimmick to drive flagship price higher. * Economy is heading to the dumps…

I could see why this might've entered into part of the discussion in a review for the original iPhone SE in 2016, but for a second iteration of this model it seems like trodden ground to point out that many average consumers don't like or need change, nor the price tag that comes with that change.

On the other hand, the 10s saw a dramatic increase in model variation in Apple's product line. It's been said before but I now have a fair amount of trouble knowing whether an iPhone model is current gen or not, I see people talking about iPhone 8, iPhone X, iPhone 11, iPhone XR, iPhone 11 Pro and now the iPhone SE has had a refresh again. A far cry from the canonical product line where Apple insisted one device was perfect for all... Whether that's a positive or a negative is up for debate. Samsung were doing fairly well until the S10 line where there were three versions of the Note and non-Note models. Google's Pixel line appears to be the last to keep with roughly one phone a generation (though the 3a slightly disrupts that rule).

Re: The 2020 iPhone SE

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It's strange that we have yet to see a phone (from anybody, not just Apple) that's the size of the old SE but with a full bezel-less display. I feel like so many people would want one. When you've got 100% screen-to-body ratio, you don't need the screen to actually be all that big, for it to be "big."

>It's strange that we have yet to see a phone (from anybody, not just Apple that's the size of the old SE but with a full bezel-less display. Simply because it cant be done yet. No Notch is small enough for an old SE Size iPhone with Face ID. The Screen would measure in exactly the same 4.7" except it would be 19.5:9 Ratio. I think we are still a few years away from that possibilities.

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Re: The 2020 iPhone SE

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I think the Samsung Galaxy S10e is the closest current model. It's not as small as I would like, but it's at least a sane size.

It’s 70mm wide, same as the new SE The old SE that I’m currently using in 58.6mm Neither google or android serve this market.

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Re: The 2020 iPhone SE

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Beating the laptop is impressive, but the top of the line part was unnecessary and counter productive. More expensive CPUs often have more cores running at a slower speed. For example, the bottom end 16" MacBook Pro comes with a 2.6 GHz CPU and the top end one comes with a 2.4 GHz CPU. Yes, there is Turbo Boost which can in some cases turn off cores in exchange for higher clock frequencies, but good luck getting much…

I don’t think Apple is considering the A13 unnecessarily on the SE2. The A13 will allow for it to be “fast” for like 5 more years. Corporations/governments/non-us lower income counties are going to love this phone especially BRICs imo. This was the absolute best choice Apple could make for a ‘generic’ phone to eat google & androids lunch.

iPhone SE 2020 launching at about 42,500 Indian rupees. OnePlus 8 is launching at 41,999 INR.

iPhone SE is by no means a "budget" phone in our country

Re: The 2020 iPhone SE

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> Once you get used to the post-iPhone-X interaction model, there’s no going back. A week with the new SE has not shaken my belief that the X-style interaction design is superior. Not one iota. I have an iPhone 8 (TouchID) and an iPad Pro (FaceID) and personally the multi-tasking gestures are ridiculously inferior to the home button. FaceID is nice (ApplePay, unlocking, etc) but switching to another app (multi-taskin…

I don’t find getting into the multitasking switcher meaningfully harder on the newer devices— it’s just a swipe-up-and-hold gesture, which I’ll occasionally time wrong and end up at the home screen, but not often enough to be “painful” (and it’s just another swipe away if I do mess up). What is vastly better on the X-series devices, though, is switching between your two or three most recent apps. Just swipe left and…

> What is vastly better on the X-series devices, though, is switching between your two or three most recent apps.

On devices with 3D Touch switching between 2 recent apps became easier once you learned this shortcut: just hard press the left edge of the screen, and depending on how far you drag it to the right, you can either go to the previous app or open the switcher (faster than double tapping the home button).

Re: The 2020 iPhone SE

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> Once you get used to the post-iPhone-X interaction model, there’s no going back. A week with the new SE has not shaken my belief that the X-style interaction design is superior. Not one iota. I have an iPhone 8 (TouchID) and an iPad Pro (FaceID) and personally the multi-tasking gestures are ridiculously inferior to the home button. FaceID is nice (ApplePay, unlocking, etc) but switching to another app (multi-taskin…

I don’t find getting into the multitasking switcher meaningfully harder on the newer devices— it’s just a swipe-up-and-hold gesture, which I’ll occasionally time wrong and end up at the home screen, but not often enough to be “painful” (and it’s just another swipe away if I do mess up). What is vastly better on the X-series devices, though, is switching between your two or three most recent apps. Just swipe left and…

> Just swipe left and right at the bottom of the screen (on the bar)— this lets you flip between apps in the order that they’re in the switcher. This means I very rarely actually enter the full multitasking switcher in normal use.

Did Apple make this a all or nothing thing or do some of these gestures also work on home button devices?

Re: The 2020 iPhone SE

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Something has got to be screwy. The iPhone has a TDP of 6W and a clock speed of 2.5GHz. The MBP has boost clocks of 5GHz and a 45W TDP.

If those numbers were in any way real world relevant, the server market would be flooded with ARM servers. 80% power savings for the same computing power would revolutionize data centers in terms of power and cooling needed.

There's much more to server hardware than CPU power and efficiency, and it's difficult segment to enter because of the risk involved making large investments in unproven hardware. But despite that, it still seems like things are actually moving in that direction and ARM is starting to get a serious foothold in the server market now. For example consider Amazon's new Graviton2 CPU's [1], which according to AnandTech 'puts all x86 alternatives to shame' [sic] when it comes to the price per unit of compute time it provides. I think it's entirely likely that the server market will be flooded with ARM servers in the not too distant future.

[1] https://www.anandtech.com/show/15578/cloud-clash-amazon-grav...

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