Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by dragonsh » Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 7:01 AM UTC

Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)
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Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by thdrdt » Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 7:45 AM UTC

Most reviews are very positive. Faster, better, Amazon removed, maybe the best Ubuntu release until now.

The only 'con' is the pushing of Snap packages. It looks like deb files only can be installed via the terminal.

Ubuntu is also researching if they can get Adobe on board. I doubt this would ever happen, but that would be huge. Most people stick on Windows and MacOS because Adobe software is not available on Linux.

Personally I switched back from Xubuntu to Ubuntu. And I must say: Ubuntu is back on track!

Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by iforgotpassword » Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 8:12 AM UTC

thdrdt wrote: post #2

Most reviews are very positive. Faster, better, Amazon removed, maybe the best Ubuntu release until now. The only 'con' is the pushing of Snap packages. It looks like deb files only can be installed via the terminal. Ubuntu is also researching if they can get Adobe on board. I doubt this would ever happen, but that would be huge. Most people stick on Windows and MacOS because Adobe software is not available on Linux.…

I use Ubuntu at work. Chromium is now snap only, and snap crapped itself with some error messages that didn't immediately lead to a solution when thrown into Google. Firefox was my main browser anyways so not too a great loss but oh man...

Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by gerdesj » Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 8:13 AM UTC

thdrdt wrote: post #2

Most reviews are very positive. Faster, better, Amazon removed, maybe the best Ubuntu release until now. The only 'con' is the pushing of Snap packages. It looks like deb files only can be installed via the terminal. Ubuntu is also researching if they can get Adobe on board. I doubt this would ever happen, but that would be huge. Most people stick on Windows and MacOS because Adobe software is not available on Linux.…

"It looks like deb files only can be installed via the terminal."

There's another way?

Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by Iolaum » Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 8:15 AM UTC

thdrdt wrote: post #2

Most reviews are very positive. Faster, better, Amazon removed, maybe the best Ubuntu release until now. The only 'con' is the pushing of Snap packages. It looks like deb files only can be installed via the terminal. Ubuntu is also researching if they can get Adobe on board. I doubt this would ever happen, but that would be huge. Most people stick on Windows and MacOS because Adobe software is not available on Linux.…

Snap packages are the reason I moved from Ubuntu Mate to Fedora Mate.

I use free software to own my computer, if it decides on its own when to update like snaps do that defeats the purpose.

Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by capableweb » Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 8:17 AM UTC

gerdesj wrote: post #4

thdrdt wrote: post #2

Most reviews are very positive. Faster, better, Amazon removed, maybe the best Ubuntu release until now. The only 'con' is the pushing of Snap packages. It looks like deb files only can be installed via the terminal. Ubuntu is also researching if they can get Adobe on board. I doubt this would ever happen, but that would be huge. Most people stick on Windows and MacOS because Adobe software is not available on Linux.…

"It looks like deb files only can be installed via the terminal." There's another way?

Oh yeah, used to be at least two more ways. Not sure which one of these are not possible but anymore, but you used to be able to do:

1) Synaptic package manager which is a GUI for searching and installing .debs. My first exposure to a package manager when I first installed Ubuntu some 12 years ago.

2) Simply double-clicking on the file, opening the Gdebi (I think?) UI for installing that specific .deb file.

Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by LandR » Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 8:18 AM UTC

gerdesj wrote: post #4

thdrdt wrote: post #2

Most reviews are very positive. Faster, better, Amazon removed, maybe the best Ubuntu release until now. The only 'con' is the pushing of Snap packages. It looks like deb files only can be installed via the terminal. Ubuntu is also researching if they can get Adobe on board. I doubt this would ever happen, but that would be huge. Most people stick on Windows and MacOS because Adobe software is not available on Linux.…

"It looks like deb files only can be installed via the terminal." There's another way?

In 18.04 you can install via the Software Center

Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by Legogris » Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 8:19 AM UTC

thdrdt wrote: post #2

Most reviews are very positive. Faster, better, Amazon removed, maybe the best Ubuntu release until now. The only 'con' is the pushing of Snap packages. It looks like deb files only can be installed via the terminal. Ubuntu is also researching if they can get Adobe on board. I doubt this would ever happen, but that would be huge. Most people stick on Windows and MacOS because Adobe software is not available on Linux.…

This, for me, marks the release when (somewhat unfortunately, 18.04 LTS has been good) I will not use Ubuntu for any new installations - desktop or server. I can see how snaps are beneficial for novice desktop users who want an AppStore-like experience, but how do they see people adopting this for Ubuntu Server?

Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by Jonnax » Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 8:20 AM UTC

thdrdt wrote: post #2

Most reviews are very positive. Faster, better, Amazon removed, maybe the best Ubuntu release until now. The only 'con' is the pushing of Snap packages. It looks like deb files only can be installed via the terminal. Ubuntu is also researching if they can get Adobe on board. I doubt this would ever happen, but that would be huge. Most people stick on Windows and MacOS because Adobe software is not available on Linux.…

I've not used Snap, Flatpack, Appimage and all the other types of app packaging tools before.

What are the benefits? Are they effectively like bundling an application with all its dependencies? Is it a way of running "native" apps instead of in a docker container?

What should I and shouldn't be using it for?

Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by bjoli » Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 8:26 AM UTC

Jonnax wrote: post #9

thdrdt wrote: post #2

Most reviews are very positive. Faster, better, Amazon removed, maybe the best Ubuntu release until now. The only 'con' is the pushing of Snap packages. It looks like deb files only can be installed via the terminal. Ubuntu is also researching if they can get Adobe on board. I doubt this would ever happen, but that would be huge. Most people stick on Windows and MacOS because Adobe software is not available on Linux.…

I've not used Snap, Flatpack, Appimage and all the other types of app packaging tools before. What are the benefits? Are they effectively like bundling an application with all its dependencies? Is it a way of running "native" apps instead of in a docker container? What should I and shouldn't be using it for?

They claim that it does sandboxing, which to my knowledge was never actually activated in any meaningful way.

I have used flatpaks on fedora which was nice, and I also built some which was quite painless. I hate that I can't launch them from the terminal like usual though.