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That system looks terrible for handling cancer and pre-existing conditions.
As opposed to one where everyone avoids medical care at all costs to avoid extortionate bills?
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The same in Fiji. We have universal health care, but anyone is of course free to forego that and pay (or use their private insurance) for a private room rather than a ward, or just go to a private hospital instead. I don't understand the debate about this in the US. It's as if the rich assume that things will change for the worse for them if universal health care is enacted.
Part of it is because the “Medicare for All” proposal outlaws private insurance.
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#93Yeah...just no. The Amish are not a group you should be modeling yourself after. I grew up surrounded by the Amish and the clean living salt of the earth myth is simply that—a myth.
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> Imagine how many social problems would disappear if people had more integrity and stronger morals. Literally every aspect of life would improve. Granted, everyone in the world is suddenly moral and of utmost integrity and everyone gets used to this new reality. The economic upside in lying/cheating is now so high that a few minutes later the world is back to exactly what it was, except for the first few persons to…
I think Islam may like a word with you on that one. There it's not just the priests. It's very common for minors to be married off, young boys to be sold as sex slaves (common in the turkic -stans areas although not sure about today), and the "it's only gay if you take it" reasoning I believe in one of the hadith's which condones pedophilia.
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That's not how insurance works, expensive insurance has a lower max out of pocket. What you are talking about is that rich people don't need insurance at all. They just pay out of pocket.
That is how health insurance works in New Zealand. If you want private health insurance for say $50 a month[1], then insurance gives access to procedures more quickly and the rooms are much nicer than the public health care system. It may give access to rare but expensive procedures. If you don’t want insurance, then the default is the public healthcare system, which is paid for by taxes. You will usually be in a war…
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As opposed to one where everyone avoids medical care at all costs to avoid extortionate bills?
I don't think there is any system like that in first world countries. The US isn't like that if that's what you're insinuating
He couldn't afford to go to hospital, so never did. I was visiting from Australia at the time and was utterly horrified, having no idea the US worked like that. Now years later his shoulder is still screwed.
Of course people in the US avoid going if at all possible, it's horrendously expensive, and medical bills are the number one cause for bankruptcy in the US [1]
In a stack of OECD countries (all the other ones?) nobody has ever gone bankrupt from medical bills, because that's impossible.
[1] https://www.thebalance.com/medical-bankruptcy-statistics-415...
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#97Insurance companies are awful, but seriously, we can train field medics to do stitches and set bones, why should it cost $3000 to have an MD do it? Listening the hand wringing about it is infuriating when you realize that the reason you have to wait for simple procedures that barbers used to do is because there is a med school bottleneck.
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#98Why does nobody look at the medical profession as the racket it is? You don't need to be an MD to handle %80 of hospital visits, and you can train trades people to handle most emergencies. Insurance companies are awful, but seriously, we can train field medics to do stitches and set bones, why should it cost $3000 to have an MD do it? Listening the hand wringing about it is infuriating when you realize that the reaso…
It's another problem or set of problems that occurs in the USA.
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#99Why does nobody look at the medical profession as the racket it is? You don't need to be an MD to handle %80 of hospital visits, and you can train trades people to handle most emergencies. Insurance companies are awful, but seriously, we can train field medics to do stitches and set bones, why should it cost $3000 to have an MD do it? Listening the hand wringing about it is infuriating when you realize that the reaso…
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#100Canada: $4,458
Sweden: $5,711
Australia: $5,002
Ireland: $4,759
Japan: $4,233
United Kingdom: $3,958
Israel: $2,837
Singapore: $2,462
USA'a actually truly outside the mainstream thinkers: Hey here's an interesting thought: what about this weird religious cult in PA?