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Re: Why we listen to new music

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Maybe I’m the odd one out but there was some study that showed most people stick to the same tastes they developed in their teenage years - music, food, hobbies, etc.

Is this just how old people become boring or caricatures of themselves?

Perhaps this is my own personal experience but it’s hard to adapt to something new when the rush of nostalgia when listening to old jams is so satisfying. You “fall in love” with the same albums and songs all over.

Re: Why we listen to new music

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I think you’re being uncharitable by saying anyone who prefers older music only likes music for the “nice sounds”. It may also be I have more interest in music history than most. But even if I want to watch a tv show or read a book, I similarly want it to be something that is more important than just “well it came out yesterday so must be relevant”. If something can still be relevant a decade after it came out, that’…

I'm not sure why you're presenting this dichotomy that you can only listen to old music or new music. I listen to and love both, I'm surprised that someone like you who clearly has a deep interest in music would rule one out. > And for the record I love music. I’m a multi-instrumentalist, I’ve played professionally in weddings, bars, played buckets in a street performing band, and continue to study music, actively ta…

it’s not like I have some hard line policy. If it makes you feel better I actually have listened to some music that came out post-2010. For example they released some remastered Beatles tracks last year and I didn’t wait 10 years to listen.

Re: Why we listen to new music

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You do have a blind spot. It's not just about progress, "better pop" or "better music". The 20th century has seen 3 true revolutions in music technology that have changed the nature of music itself (photography went through similar paradigm shifts) 1. Recorded music (straight to wax then vynil records) was the first one (before that there were only live performances) : it made music ubiquitous, created a new industry…

Thanks for the interesting comment. Yes, digital music exists, but you haven't convinced me why I should listen to it. I'm sure some of it is awesome, and most of it is junk, just like all music has been through the ages. The difference is that with old music, I can rely on the "test of time" to weed out the junk. One can spend one's whole life exploring music which has stood the test of time and is pretty much guara…

I just gotta bite. You don't have to listen to it. But: "risk of hearing junk music" ?. If you are smart enough to know the difference you can just skip the track. However it seems you absolutely rely on external validation.

As new ideas emerge they often are raw and intense. As they get adopted by commercial music producers, these ideas become tamed and soft. Would you like to hear an original idea or a version adapted for average taste? Thats what you are constantly missing out on.

I guess your main problem is you think you can qualitatively compare art. Nope, stop dreaming that some theorem or critic will prove that music is good. Its all subjective, don't be afraid to explore your own taste.

As long as you keep listening to curated top 1000 lists, it shows that you have personally no actual opinion on the matter.

Re: Why we listen to new music

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Thanks for the interesting comment. Yes, digital music exists, but you haven't convinced me why I should listen to it. I'm sure some of it is awesome, and most of it is junk, just like all music has been through the ages. The difference is that with old music, I can rely on the "test of time" to weed out the junk. One can spend one's whole life exploring music which has stood the test of time and is pretty much guara…

I just gotta bite. You don't have to listen to it. But: "risk of hearing junk music" ?. If you are smart enough to know the difference you can just skip the track. However it seems you absolutely rely on external validation. As new ideas emerge they often are raw and intense. As they get adopted by commercial music producers, these ideas become tamed and soft. Would you like to hear an original idea or a version adap…

Thanks, I appreciate your well-thought-out response. Re "you can just skip the track", I've found that often a new kind of music will initially not sound good to me, but if I force myself to listen to it a bunch, eventually it'll "click" and I'll love it. I think if I just chose music based on what sounds good to me, I'd end up always listening to variations of the same basic kind of music.

Can you post an example of some of this "raw and intense" music? I'm asking sincerely, and I'm baffled why so many people in this subthread seem so resistant to post even one single example. Are you guarding your musical finds close, like they'll run out if someone else listens to them?

Re: Why we listen to new music

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I'm not sure why you're presenting this dichotomy that you can only listen to old music or new music. I listen to and love both, I'm surprised that someone like you who clearly has a deep interest in music would rule one out. > And for the record I love music. I’m a multi-instrumentalist, I’ve played professionally in weddings, bars, played buckets in a street performing band, and continue to study music, actively ta…

it’s not like I have some hard line policy. If it makes you feel better I actually have listened to some music that came out post-2010. For example they released some remastered Beatles tracks last year and I didn’t wait 10 years to listen.

So you're saying people shouldn't listen to the music you've composed until 10 years after you release it. Good idea, I was going to ask for your soundcloud link, but now I'm thinking I won't bother until 10 years from now when you've proven that you're good enough to grace these ears!

Re: Why we listen to new music

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I'm not saying obsessing about it. The parent implied they never sought out new things to listen to. Looking for something new to watch every so often is a pretty standard activity, I think.

On the contrary, the parent's point seems pretty clear about the obsessive aspect: "There's no real need to always seek new music, obsessively [...]".

True. But I think they were presenting a false premise, because the parent they were replying to made no mention of obsessiveness.
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