Is MIPS Dead? Lawsuit, Bankruptcy, Maintainers Leaving and More
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Is MIPS Dead? Lawsuit, Bankruptcy, Maintainers Leaving and More
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Re: Is MIPS Dead? Lawsuit, Bankruptcy, Maintainers Leaving and More
#2The writing's been on the wall for MIPS for ages. AFAIK it's not better than ARM in any meaningful way.
Re: Is MIPS Dead? Lawsuit, Bankruptcy, Maintainers Leaving and More
#3The writing's been on the wall for MIPS for ages. AFAIK it's not better than ARM in any meaningful way.
Well, good times were had!
Re: Is MIPS Dead? Lawsuit, Bankruptcy, Maintainers Leaving and More
#4WAVE computing used to be working on CGRA [1] chip as deep learning accelerators. I got in touch with a few folks there. They apparently failed that endeavor and pivoted to MIPS.
[1] https://wavecomp.ai/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/WP_CGRA.pdf
Re: Is MIPS Dead? Lawsuit, Bankruptcy, Maintainers Leaving and More
#5MIPS dying is really the end of an era. I think it was the quintessential RISC processor of the early 90's. IIRC, Windows NT was developed on a MIPS machine to ensure that inadvertent x86 dependencies did not sneak into the code.
I remember reading a PCWorld article comparing various processors. This was the time the Pentium came out. If my memory servers, the MIPS won the overall performance crown vs Pentium, PowerPC, and Alpha AXP.
Re: Is MIPS Dead? Lawsuit, Bankruptcy, Maintainers Leaving and More
#6I remember listening to some guy from ImgTec brag about how MIPS is the 4th biggest instruction set in the world as if MIPS had like 20% market share rather 1% or whetever ridiculous market share ImgTec had bought their way into. That was literally at the peak when ImgTec were on top of the world, they'd just built a new campus and were spending like there was no tomorrow. Then Apple drank their milkshake, and they had to sell everything. Even then though, it was really bizarre that anyone was still trying to make MIPs a thing.
MIPS has been the walking dead for a couple of decades now. It's really time to let go. Especially since there are actually interesting things happening in the ISA space with RISC-V.
Re: Is MIPS Dead? Lawsuit, Bankruptcy, Maintainers Leaving and More
#7MIPS dying is really the end of an era. I think it was the quintessential RISC processor of the early 90's. IIRC, Windows NT was developed on a MIPS machine to ensure that inadvertent x86 dependencies did not sneak into the code. I remember reading a PCWorld article comparing various processors. This was the time the Pentium came out. If my memory servers, the MIPS won the overall performance crown vs Pentium, PowerP…
> IIRC, Windows NT was developed on a MIPS machine to ensure that inadvertent x86 dependencies did not sneak into the code.
Not MIPS. Windows NT was initially developed on a more obscure RISC architecture, Intel i860. It was later ported to MIPS though.
Re: Is MIPS Dead? Lawsuit, Bankruptcy, Maintainers Leaving and More
#8ARM and RISC-V have collectively removed any remaining niches (or future prospects) for MIPS.
Re: Is MIPS Dead? Lawsuit, Bankruptcy, Maintainers Leaving and More
#9I remember listening to some guy from ImgTec brag about how MIPS is the 4th biggest instruction set in the world as if MIPS had like 20% market share rather 1% or whetever ridiculous market share ImgTec had bought their way into. That was literally at the peak when ImgTec were on top of the world, they'd just built a new campus and were spending like there was no tomorrow. Then Apple drank their milkshake, and they h…
Pardon my ignorance, but... is RISC-V all that much more alive than MIPS? My impression is that MIPS has a past, RISC-V may have a future, but neither has much of a present.
Re: Is MIPS Dead? Lawsuit, Bankruptcy, Maintainers Leaving and More
#10I remember listening to some guy from ImgTec brag about how MIPS is the 4th biggest instruction set in the world as if MIPS had like 20% market share rather 1% or whetever ridiculous market share ImgTec had bought their way into. That was literally at the peak when ImgTec were on top of the world, they'd just built a new campus and were spending like there was no tomorrow. Then Apple drank their milkshake, and they h…
Pardon my ignorance, but... is RISC-V all that much more alive than MIPS? My impression is that MIPS has a past, RISC-V may have a future, but neither has much of a present.
For desktop or server class stuff, RISC-V is still shaking out but there are attempts to make it happen on-going right now. For everything else you've got companies like Western Digital that have committed to shipping a billion[2] RISC-V processors for their own devices, and many others. [1]
Just take a look at their membership page for people funding or helping develop the processors, https://riscv.org/members-at-a-glance/
[1] https://www.westerndigital.com/company/innovations/risc-v [2] https://www.extremetech.com/computing/281891-western-digital...