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“Out of the Crisis” Podcast

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Re: “Out of the Crisis” Podcast

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Post by thephyber »

duxup wrote: post #7

Is there some reason to think Cuban has some useful thoughts here? He has done well for himself but he seems more than willing to make quips well outside of his knowledge base. Specifically I'm thinking of some off the cuff tweets regarding personal healthcare that seemed to be pretty far off base. Maybe that was a one off thing but I recall some others even regarding personal finance that seemed questionable.

I've been reading his posts on LinkedIn. He seems to be advocating for businesses to treat their employees loyally now or fear the social backlash (reputation hit) when we come out of crisis.

I have no idea about his previous tweets and I'm not sure I care.

Re: “Out of the Crisis” Podcast

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Post by muh_gradle »

duxup wrote: post #7

Is there some reason to think Cuban has some useful thoughts here? He has done well for himself but he seems more than willing to make quips well outside of his knowledge base. Specifically I'm thinking of some off the cuff tweets regarding personal healthcare that seemed to be pretty far off base. Maybe that was a one off thing but I recall some others even regarding personal finance that seemed questionable.

Cuban is an ok guy, but the healthcare comments are a good example of him being plain wrong.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/tv/2019/11/04/s...

This is an example of him arguing with a MD. Cuban takes an issue with the doctor stating that consumer driven health care from non medical professionals is responsible for overuse of antibiotics. Cuban gets heated and dismisses the doctor as a quack when the doctor makes a completely legitimate point.

Mark Cuban, like all successful people in life, is great at providing a loud opinion on everything and especially with areas that aren't his expertise.

Re: “Out of the Crisis” Podcast

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Post by aaron-lebo »

nostromo wrote: post #14
seppin wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effect Same reason we ask Peter Thiel or Elon Musk their thoughts on AI or politics.

Thiel and Musk have a track record of success though. Yes, they're lucky, but they also seem to be smart and capable. Cuban is a one-hit-wonder that sold a domain (and a dream) to Yahoo at the height of the dot com bubble. They don't seem particularly comparable. Edit: to respond to the comments below, no I'm not saying he's not successful, or that he's not smart. I'm only saying in tech and startup circles, he's no…

Both of those guys have a track record of plowing more money into money, with their own failures.

It's just sports, but winning a title isn't nothing, and if you've followed his sports career, he was big into advanced stats decently early and the Mavs are as good as anyone at finding diamonds in the rough.

There's obviously Dirk and Doncic, but they were also really close on getting Giannis. That shows some kind of insight. Not to mention, small ball dominates the league today, but the Don Nelson Mavs were doing that in 2003.

I know it is just sports, but sports are some of the most competitive domains in the world, with the ability to innovate, which he has done. I don't think HN's preference for tech should just ignore what he's accomplished.

Don't forget, PG and YC are only what they are because Viaweb was purchased in the same wave as Broadcast. Neither of those companies matter today.

Re: “Out of the Crisis” Podcast

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Post by holler »

nostromo wrote: post #14
seppin wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effect Same reason we ask Peter Thiel or Elon Musk their thoughts on AI or politics.

Thiel and Musk have a track record of success though. Yes, they're lucky, but they also seem to be smart and capable. Cuban is a one-hit-wonder that sold a domain (and a dream) to Yahoo at the height of the dot com bubble. They don't seem particularly comparable. Edit: to respond to the comments below, no I'm not saying he's not successful, or that he's not smart. I'm only saying in tech and startup circles, he's no…

On what basis is he a one-hit-wonder? Just because his endeavors didn’t progress to building rockets or big data ML for the gov, and instead to building a winning NBA team and one of most successful ongoing reality “startup” tv shows, he is somehow less-than?

Re: “Out of the Crisis” Podcast

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Post by Kinnard »

puxud wrote: post #13

Is there some reason to think Altman has some useful thoughts here? He has done well for himself but he seems more than willing to make quips well outside of his knowledge base. Specifically I'm thinking of some off the cuff tweets regarding personal healthcare that seemed to be pretty far off base. Maybe that was a one off thing but I recall some others even regarding personal finance that seemed questionable.

Are you a bot?

Re: “Out of the Crisis” Podcast

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Post by aaron-lebo »

nostromo wrote: post #20
aaron-lebo wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cubes has always been outspoken. He's been almost as publicly known for 20 years and certainly winning the title in 2011 gave him more prestige. He'd make a decent candidate though. He's a Democrat (I guess he could run as a Republican, too) from the South with a bigger built-in fanbase than anyone else mentioned in this comment thread. He's run his organization for a long time with advanced stats, so he's no dinosau…

Howard Schultz and Mike Bloomberg fell for this trap too, and it didn't turn out well for them. It must be difficult to get honest advice as a billionaire, because these guys seem to be quite uninformed about how unpopular they actually turn out to be in the political arena.

I'm certain it is hard to get that advice, because it's pretty hard to get out of your own way, success certainly ain't going to make it easier.

You're completely correct about both of those guys, but Bloomberg showed an incredibly lack of charisma in his run and Schultz is known, but I really think yall are underrating how popular Cuban is for common people.

The ESPN demographic is a lot bigger than the HN techie demographic.

Re: “Out of the Crisis” Podcast

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Post by duxup »

muh_gradle wrote: post #22
duxup wrote: post #7

Is there some reason to think Cuban has some useful thoughts here? He has done well for himself but he seems more than willing to make quips well outside of his knowledge base. Specifically I'm thinking of some off the cuff tweets regarding personal healthcare that seemed to be pretty far off base. Maybe that was a one off thing but I recall some others even regarding personal finance that seemed questionable.

Cuban is an ok guy, but the healthcare comments are a good example of him being plain wrong. https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/tv/2019/11/04/s... This is an example of him arguing with a MD. Cuban takes an issue with the doctor stating that consumer driven health care from non medical professionals is responsible for overuse of antibiotics. Cuban gets heated and dismisses the doctor as a quack when the doc…

I don't even think that was the health related comment by Cuban I was thinking of... but man what a cluster of a scene that sounds like.

Re: “Out of the Crisis” Podcast

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Post by kevinskii »

"The first conversation is with investor and philanthropist Sam Altman. He has been one of the leading Silicon Valley figures helping the entire biotech industry make a complete pivot to working on solutions: vaccines, therapies, and eventually a cure."

Ok, no disrespect to Sam Altman, but come on.

Re: “Out of the Crisis” Podcast

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Post by ardy42 »

Kinnard wrote: post #25
puxud wrote: post #13

Is there some reason to think Altman has some useful thoughts here? He has done well for himself but he seems more than willing to make quips well outside of his knowledge base. Specifically I'm thinking of some off the cuff tweets regarding personal healthcare that seemed to be pretty far off base. Maybe that was a one off thing but I recall some others even regarding personal finance that seemed questionable.

Are you a bot?

Given the username and that it's a copy-paste of https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22949500, I'm guessing some form of deliberate mockery or harassment.
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