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“Out of the Crisis” Podcast

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Re: “Out of the Crisis” Podcast

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Post by crispyambulance »

duxup wrote: post #7

Is there some reason to think Cuban has some useful thoughts here? He has done well for himself but he seems more than willing to make quips well outside of his knowledge base. Specifically I'm thinking of some off the cuff tweets regarding personal healthcare that seemed to be pretty far off base. Maybe that was a one off thing but I recall some others even regarding personal finance that seemed questionable.

> Is there some reason to think Cuban has some useful thoughts here?

He's wetting his feet, it seems, for some political aspirations.

I mean, hit TV show + billionaire + massive ego + mis-informed? opinion on everything ==> presidential material, right?

Kind of tired of seeing his face and hearing his voice, but somehow I suspect we'll see more and more of it.

Re: “Out of the Crisis” Podcast

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Post by mistermann »

seppin wrote: post #8
duxup wrote: post #7

Is there some reason to think Cuban has some useful thoughts here? He has done well for himself but he seems more than willing to make quips well outside of his knowledge base. Specifically I'm thinking of some off the cuff tweets regarding personal healthcare that seemed to be pretty far off base. Maybe that was a one off thing but I recall some others even regarding personal finance that seemed questionable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effect Same reason we ask Peter Thiel or Elon Musk their thoughts on AI or politics.

I generally have a positive opinion of Cuban, but it's not via that approach. Generally speaking, I've just liked most of what I've seen of him, and disliked very little. Plus, he seems willing to challenge the status quo, which I weight fairly heavily.

Re: “Out of the Crisis” Podcast

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Post by puxud »

Is there some reason to think Altman has some useful thoughts here?

He has done well for himself but he seems more than willing to make quips well outside of his knowledge base. Specifically I'm thinking of some off the cuff tweets regarding personal healthcare that seemed to be pretty far off base.

Maybe that was a one off thing but I recall some others even regarding personal finance that seemed questionable.

Re: “Out of the Crisis” Podcast

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Post by nostromo »

seppin wrote: post #8
duxup wrote: post #7

Is there some reason to think Cuban has some useful thoughts here? He has done well for himself but he seems more than willing to make quips well outside of his knowledge base. Specifically I'm thinking of some off the cuff tweets regarding personal healthcare that seemed to be pretty far off base. Maybe that was a one off thing but I recall some others even regarding personal finance that seemed questionable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effect Same reason we ask Peter Thiel or Elon Musk their thoughts on AI or politics.

Thiel and Musk have a track record of success though. Yes, they're lucky, but they also seem to be smart and capable.

Cuban is a one-hit-wonder that sold a domain (and a dream) to Yahoo at the height of the dot com bubble.

They don't seem particularly comparable.

Edit: to respond to the comments below, no I'm not saying he's not successful, or that he's not smart. I'm only saying in tech and startup circles, he's no Thiel or Musk.

Re: “Out of the Crisis” Podcast

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Post by itronitron »

duxup wrote: post #7

Is there some reason to think Cuban has some useful thoughts here? He has done well for himself but he seems more than willing to make quips well outside of his knowledge base. Specifically I'm thinking of some off the cuff tweets regarding personal healthcare that seemed to be pretty far off base. Maybe that was a one off thing but I recall some others even regarding personal finance that seemed questionable.

He was an executive producer for the movie 'The Road' (a 2009 American post-apocalyptic survival film) so he at least has a passing interest in the topic.

Re: “Out of the Crisis” Podcast

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Post by bhupy »

duxup wrote: post #7

Is there some reason to think Cuban has some useful thoughts here? He has done well for himself but he seems more than willing to make quips well outside of his knowledge base. Specifically I'm thinking of some off the cuff tweets regarding personal healthcare that seemed to be pretty far off base. Maybe that was a one off thing but I recall some others even regarding personal finance that seemed questionable.

> Is there some reason to think Cuban has some useful thoughts here?

It seems to me that the most effective trait in a politician is strategic decision-making, capability of applying abstract thinking to different situations (which comes particularly handy during crises), and figuring out how to get the right people together and get them to cooperate.

All of these also strike me as traits in executives and effective managers, which is likely why we tend to organically gravitate towards them in politics.

Whether Cuban can be regarded as an effective executive is debatable, I have no opinion on that.

Re: “Out of the Crisis” Podcast

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Post by aaron-lebo »

crispyambulance wrote: post #11
duxup wrote: post #7

Is there some reason to think Cuban has some useful thoughts here? He has done well for himself but he seems more than willing to make quips well outside of his knowledge base. Specifically I'm thinking of some off the cuff tweets regarding personal healthcare that seemed to be pretty far off base. Maybe that was a one off thing but I recall some others even regarding personal finance that seemed questionable.

> Is there some reason to think Cuban has some useful thoughts here? He's wetting his feet, it seems, for some political aspirations. I mean, hit TV show + billionaire + massive ego + mis-informed? opinion on everything ==> presidential material, right? Kind of tired of seeing his face and hearing his voice, but somehow I suspect we'll see more and more of it.

Cubes has always been outspoken.

He's been almost as publicly known for 20 years and certainly winning the title in 2011 gave him more prestige.

He'd make a decent candidate though. He's a Democrat (I guess he could run as a Republican, too) from the South with a bigger built-in fanbase than anyone else mentioned in this comment thread. He's run his organization for a long time with advanced stats, so he's no dinosaur. He's Jewish (if that matters, but it's nice having more diversity). Seemingly very healthy and relatively young, and no existing political career so he can cast himself as a ... maverick.

He's made a number of missteps, but he's also pretty good at turning those to his advantage. He's a minor god here in Dallas. If we're in an era where popularity/money is what wins elections, I feel like you could do much worse than him, and I'd trust him way way more than Trump and feel like he'd have the potential for lots more interesting change than Biden.

Re: “Out of the Crisis” Podcast

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Post by adventured »

duxup wrote: post #7

Is there some reason to think Cuban has some useful thoughts here? He has done well for himself but he seems more than willing to make quips well outside of his knowledge base. Specifically I'm thinking of some off the cuff tweets regarding personal healthcare that seemed to be pretty far off base. Maybe that was a one off thing but I recall some others even regarding personal finance that seemed questionable.

> Is there some reason to think Cuban has some useful thoughts here?

Sure. He has invested into hundreds of businesses of every size spanning two decades. He has intimate experience with the operations of small and large size businesses of most every type, along with their operating requirements in all regards.

A huge part of the recovery is getting small, medium, large businesses all back to functioning properly. From his perch, he sees a lot of what's going on at multiple levels. He is one of the couple hundred prominent business persons selected for Trump's recovery advisory council.

He knows his stuff and he keeps close tabs on all of his investments (and the broader economic environment), which is remarkable given the expanded scope of his activities. I've done business with Mark in the past and can vouch for all of this personally. People often have wide-ranging responses to him based on his outsized personality, however he is very sharp, he's a smart guy and understands business at a high level of competency. People that dig on him by saying he's just a lucky dotcom billionaire, don't actually know him.

edit: so let's hear your retort, downvote brigade.

I'm probably one of the only people in this thread qualified to speak to the actual question the parent posed, as I have years of experience being in business with Cuban. I know how he operates and how he deals with businesses. Everybody else here is talking out of their ass.

Re: “Out of the Crisis” Podcast

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Post by qaq »

duxup wrote: post #7

Is there some reason to think Cuban has some useful thoughts here? He has done well for himself but he seems more than willing to make quips well outside of his knowledge base. Specifically I'm thinking of some off the cuff tweets regarding personal healthcare that seemed to be pretty far off base. Maybe that was a one off thing but I recall some others even regarding personal finance that seemed questionable.

after SV can't take him seriously at all just see Russ Hanneman

Re: “Out of the Crisis” Podcast

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Post by nostromo »

aaron-lebo wrote: post #17
crispyambulance wrote: post #11

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> Is there some reason to think Cuban has some useful thoughts here? He's wetting his feet, it seems, for some political aspirations. I mean, hit TV show + billionaire + massive ego + mis-informed? opinion on everything ==> presidential material, right? Kind of tired of seeing his face and hearing his voice, but somehow I suspect we'll see more and more of it.

Cubes has always been outspoken. He's been almost as publicly known for 20 years and certainly winning the title in 2011 gave him more prestige. He'd make a decent candidate though. He's a Democrat (I guess he could run as a Republican, too) from the South with a bigger built-in fanbase than anyone else mentioned in this comment thread. He's run his organization for a long time with advanced stats, so he's no dinosau…

Howard Schultz and Mike Bloomberg fell for this trap too, and it didn't turn out well for them.

It must be difficult to get honest advice as a billionaire, because these guys seem to be quite uninformed about how unpopular they actually turn out to be in the political arena.

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