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Magic Leap reportedly slashes jobs and steps away from consumer plans

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Re: Magic Leap reportedly slashes jobs and steps away from consumer plans

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They're exploring a sale valued at $10B, but it's doubtful who would have the appetite to buy it at this valuation. Google declined a follow on round recently, Apple has been developing their own tech for years, and Facebook has quietly stepped away from AR/VR. Magic Leap is reminiscent of another company with "Magic" in its name: General Magic ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Magic ). They both made a product…

Facebook has not stepped away from VR. Oculus and Valve are the industry leaders right now. Please stop spreading misinformation.

Re: Magic Leap reportedly slashes jobs and steps away from consumer plans

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Wow, they burned billions. Karl Guttag has blogged about them for years, debunking their technology. Hi blog is a good read for all things in the AR/VR space https://www.kguttag.com/

Their tech is actually pretty decent. It's as good as anything else on the market. Their biggest mistake has been setting sky high expectations and just not coming close. If you got a cold demo of Magic Leap you'd probably be blown away. If you watch their simulated demo from however many years ago, then try on the headset you'll be sorely disappointed.

Obligatory:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ7-F_vWUVE

Re: Magic Leap reportedly slashes jobs and steps away from consumer plans

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This is such a weird company. They created big buzz over years and it seems they are just fading away quietly with nothing to show for the money they took in. Reminds me a little of Theranos (although not as criminal). Why do these investors keep pumping so much money into a company that has nothing to show? I thought they do due diligence.

I assume they must have had a killer demo. 1. Put the goggles on some investor's head (in a normal looking room, but with known lighting and spatial properties...). 2. Show them some flashy demo that has some limitations, but promise that with their investment, they will be able to remove those limitations. 3. Investors, who probably lack the deep knowledge of optics to know that those limitations aren't so trivial,…

I've had the opportunity to demo their product on 3 different occasions. Each time it was a clunky interaction, stopped working in the middle of the demo, and I left thinking my kid's Playstation VR could run circles around their tech.

Re: Magic Leap reportedly slashes jobs and steps away from consumer plans

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it’s up there, but still Google Glass takes the cake (or maybe General Magic). Glass did release limited versions of stuff, unlike Magic Leap, but I think they spent way more money than Magic Leap. Magic Leap raised $2.6B [0]. Although I have no idea how much Google spent, I suspect it’s more than this when you factor in the barges and rollout plan that they had and didn’t use at all. [0] https://www.crunchba…

Glass was killed by a single word: "glasshole" - I've never seen anything else so utterly destroyed so quickly.

I don’t think that nomenclature had anything to do with glass failing as a consumer product - the glasses simply did not fulfill any need or desire that would lead to mass consumer adoption at their price point. When the iPad came out Apple was pilloried by the press and Twitter dummies for releasing a product that sounded like a feminine hygiene product. It didn’t hurt the product at all.

Re: Magic Leap reportedly slashes jobs and steps away from consumer plans

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I sort of always knew it was the job of VCs to hype up their portfolio, but i've never seen it as bare faced as when Benedict Evans was shilling Magic Leap saying things along the lines of "Magic Leap was the coolest thing I'd seen since the iPhone. It's now much cooler than that." and "I’ve had the Magic Leap demo. It was worth going to Florida for."

Well that looks a bit silly now doesn't it.

Re: Magic Leap reportedly slashes jobs and steps away from consumer plans

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They're exploring a sale valued at $10B, but it's doubtful who would have the appetite to buy it at this valuation. Google declined a follow on round recently, Apple has been developing their own tech for years, and Facebook has quietly stepped away from AR/VR. Magic Leap is reminiscent of another company with "Magic" in its name: General Magic ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Magic ). They both made a product…

Will be surprised to see someone would even buy them with 1B...They are basically worthless at this moment.

And what good has this inspiration brings to the economy then? It is funny to even call it an inspiration since for a very long period of time it is just rendered CG for marketing.

Re: Magic Leap reportedly slashes jobs and steps away from consumer plans

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I sort of always knew it was the job of VCs to hype up their portfolio, but i've never seen it as bare faced as when Benedict Evans was shilling Magic Leap saying things along the lines of "Magic Leap was the coolest thing I'd seen since the iPhone. It's now much cooler than that." and "I’ve had the Magic Leap demo. It was worth going to Florida for." Well that looks a bit silly now doesn't it.

Magic Leap is really cool to use. That doesn't mean it's a feasible product for the mainstream.

Re: Magic Leap reportedly slashes jobs and steps away from consumer plans

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post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's less of a tale of "vaporware" (I mean, Magic Leap has something that actually exists, even if it's not successful) than yet another cautionary tale of startups taking WAAAYYY more money than they need. There was simply no reason for them to need this much cash before they proved market fit. I mean, has there ever been a successful company that gorged on funding before they needed it that eventually becam…

Or: It doesn't matter how many billions you spend on a problem if the core technology isn't there. Scientific discovery advances based on curiosity and open experimentation. That even includes when we "know" how to do the things but its not miniaturized enough yet. Imagine being a company tasked with inventing the walkman 10 or 15 years before it was possible. You'd end up with some crazy designs.

See also: Apple Newton versus iPhone.

Re: Magic Leap reportedly slashes jobs and steps away from consumer plans

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post #77

I sort of always knew it was the job of VCs to hype up their portfolio, but i've never seen it as bare faced as when Benedict Evans was shilling Magic Leap saying things along the lines of "Magic Leap was the coolest thing I'd seen since the iPhone. It's now much cooler than that." and "I’ve had the Magic Leap demo. It was worth going to Florida for." Well that looks a bit silly now doesn't it.

Magic Leap is really cool to use. That doesn't mean it's a feasible product for the mainstream.

Not with its playing-card-sized FOV it isn't
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