I have no idea about the financials of Patreon but their site leaves so much room for improvement. It's actually pretty awful. There are lots of independent artists running Pateron accounts with 200-5000 patrons. Fans sign up to support them but also to get access to their library of content. Patreon provides a piss-poor UX for getting to this content. There is no list of content. There just "here's the stream of pos…
> In other words a bad user can share the links with others where as if they did this through patreon you'd have to log in to access the media. Of course bad users can still share the media they downloaded in other ways. They do. There's a popular website I won't name (----.-----) that has users provide their Patreon logins, and it goes and auto-scrapes all post content from people that login supports and mirrors it…
Patreon lays off 13% of workforce
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#162If you sign up with Patreon to get perks, you're not really a patron any more. You're a customer.
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#163>Still, it’s peculiar timing for Patreon, given the company touted an increase in new memberships during the first three weeks of March.
Peculiar indeed. So what is a factor not yet mentioned?
69 days ago, I was net downvoted after pointing out specifically what trouble was coming for Patreon.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22316071
>>I wonder if consumers could use forced arbitration in the same way.
>They can. Patreon is about to be hit really hard for playing thought policeman.
Now we are here.
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#164What happened to those French guys patron alternative for open source projects? Libre-something was is name...
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#165Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've heard it said that porn tends to have a large amount of chargebacks. There would also, presumably, be a fear of censorship targeting your entire company for over a subset of content. Back in 2018 Tumblr was blocked from Apple's app store [1] and responded by banning all adult content on the service [2] - and I'm sure there's a similar risk from school/workplace/ISP NSFW blocking services which are of course famo…
> Obviously, tumblr could have shifted everything NSFW to nsfwtumblr.com Or just kept using their web page?? I'm pretty sure that I can still access NSFW content in Safari. I never understood what's the point of website-specific apps - like HN app or Reddit app or even Facebook & Twitter app - except of course some middle manager's quest for promotion.
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#166Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Obviously, tumblr could have shifted everything NSFW to nsfwtumblr.com Or just kept using their web page?? I'm pretty sure that I can still access NSFW content in Safari. I never understood what's the point of website-specific apps - like HN app or Reddit app or even Facebook & Twitter app - except of course some middle manager's quest for promotion.
Apps get access to a lot more data than the browser does.
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#167FWIW I’m pretty sure OnlyFans is run by one guy out of London. Maybe has a handful of contracted employees for engineering and support. Basically the same business. Not sure what the payment volume comparison is but must be hundreds of millions a year, at least.
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#168What alternatives to patron exists today? What happened to those French guys patron alternative for open source projects? Libre-something was is name...
They had some trouble with micro-payments, resulting in a big drop. It's solved now. (Basically: don't do micro payments, pay e.g. 1 year in advance, directly to each receiver.)
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#169Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tumblr v2? Patreon is not an advertising supported platform, so it can't be from advertisers. Onlyfans has no problem accepting credit cards; and Patreon is certainly at the scale where they negotiate with payment facilitators. I'm curious why they made the decision... moral superiority? If it's a brand perspective, then I think the biggest regret of Patreon in the coming years is going to be not spawning off their o…
Patreon has always had its hands dirty in enforcing their definition of "morality" -- while I almost completely agreed with their decisions, banning "anime" was the last straw for me. https://www.reddit.com/r/patreon/comments/fho2ii/patreons_ba... Each choice they made to ban an "influencer" in the name of morality was a massive hit to their business because by definition, not only was said influencer banned, but als…
> They're not banning anime. They're banning the fetishization of young girls, which has been against the community guidelines for quite a while:
> However, we have zero tolerance when it comes to the glorification of sexual violence which includes bestiality, rape, and child exploitation (i.e., sexualized depiction of minors). This is true for illustrated, animated, or any other type of creations. Patreon reserves the right to review and remove accounts that may violate this guideline.
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#170> In March, Patreon wrote in a blog post, “Not only are patrons not leaving the platform, we’ve even seen many of them upgrade their tiers to support their favorite creators during this challenging time.” Additionally, the average income for creators was 60% higher in March than in previous months, according to the company. > Around that same time, however, Patreon said it saw patrons exiting the platform more than u…