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Facebook Takes $5.7B Stake in India’s Jio

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Re: Facebook Takes $5.7B Stake in India’s Jio

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Post by mkbkn »

taikawatiti wrote: post #129
ddrt wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn’t their leader an extreme nationalist? How does it get worse than that?

Sheltered white liberal whose only window to the world is CNN or the occasional poverty tourism to Asia when he's not doing CSS programming thinks this is still 19th century and he gets to decide who rules a country. Newsflash- India is a democracy. While you guys were making up Russia collusion and giving pulitzers over it to subvert your own democracy (yes I'm an Indian in India from where it's easy to see US polit…

No one has problem with Hinduism. The problem is with Hindutva & bhakts.

Re: Facebook Takes $5.7B Stake in India’s Jio

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Post by taikawatiti »

mkbkn wrote: post #131
taikawatiti wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sheltered white liberal whose only window to the world is CNN or the occasional poverty tourism to Asia when he's not doing CSS programming thinks this is still 19th century and he gets to decide who rules a country. Newsflash- India is a democracy. While you guys were making up Russia collusion and giving pulitzers over it to subvert your own democracy (yes I'm an Indian in India from where it's easy to see US polit…

No one has problem with Hinduism. The problem is with Hindutva & bhakts.

Yet another CSS programmer turned Hacker news philosopher speaking for "everybody".

Re: Facebook Takes $5.7B Stake in India’s Jio

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Post by mkbkn »

sn41 wrote: post #12

And India's fight against Facebook's walled garden, the Round 1 of which, it had won so admirably in 2016, now faces a setback. With this, and the crumbling of BSNL, a good part of India's telecom infrastrucure is now controlled by foreign players. Anyone who remembers Marc Andreesen's execrable remark on colonialism should be concerned.

Any link(s) to read?

Re: Facebook Takes $5.7B Stake in India’s Jio

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Post by sn41 »

mkbkn wrote: post #133
sn41 wrote: post #12

And India's fight against Facebook's walled garden, the Round 1 of which, it had won so admirably in 2016, now faces a setback. With this, and the crumbling of BSNL, a good part of India's telecom infrastrucure is now controlled by foreign players. Anyone who remembers Marc Andreesen's execrable remark on colonialism should be concerned.

Any link(s) to read?

This is an older Guardian long read on the 2016 developments https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/may/12/facebook-...

Re: Facebook Takes $5.7B Stake in India’s Jio

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Post by webmobdev »

newyankee wrote: post #112
webmobdev wrote: post #41

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True. Our current PM Modi will dance to Ambani's tune. But killing BSNL isn't so easy ... They have lakhs of employees and with the poor state of indian economy I doubt if the government would be able to afford to pay the majority a proper severance package. Not to mention the unions and strikes they will have to deal with.

BSNL mismanagement is the output of decades of lethargy by successive Govts which prevented PSUs from becoming nimble. At least this Govt is trying even when it has limited fiscal options. This kind of extreme one sided scapegoating of PM to earn the approval of Western folks is highly condemnable.

> ... to earn the approval of Western folks is highly condemnable.

... and you too should read what you copy-pasted. ;)

Re: Facebook Takes $5.7B Stake in India’s Jio

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Post by kumarvvr »

vegiraghav wrote: post #89
fermienrico wrote: post #61

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This is not a way to respond on HN. Please be respectful.

May be its just me, but I think calling a democratically elected leader of the most diverse country in the world, an extremist, is more disrespectful.

Its a first world thing.

They can overthrow a democratically elected government in Iran, and install a dictator, wage a war against Vietnam for more than a decade, meddle with south american nations wholesale, rub hands with despots like MBS of Suadi Arabia

and then come to the oldest civilization in the world, one of the most diverse, culturally rich society that has survived 200 years of Imperialist rule, an even more years under Islamist rape and plunder and looting, and then claim the democratically leader emerging from one of the biggest and universally agreed free and fair elections as 'extremely nationalist'.

If the leader of the country reflects the average joe of that country, I would gleefully point to trump.

Re: Facebook Takes $5.7B Stake in India’s Jio

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Post by kinkrtyavimoodh »

webmobdev wrote: post #37
missedthecue wrote: post #11

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>(Bad for us consumers ofcourse.) explain?

- They've crippled the indian telecom industry by driving out many competitors through their anti-competitive behaviour of offering FREE services for nearly a year under the guise of "testing" their network. They were aided in this by the government who ignored the protests from the other players. - Then they offered services for very LOW prices. - Once the competitors were driven out, they've RAISED prices. And are…

India went from charging some of the costliest data plans in the world to some of the cheapest, thanks to Jio.

What exactly was holding back the hands of the entrenched players when they charged INR 10 per MB of data?

Re: Facebook Takes $5.7B Stake in India’s Jio

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Post by webmobdev »

sachoo wrote: post #63
webmobdev wrote: post #6

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There's BSNL. Their 4G services are currently better than Jio and Airtel in my city. And they provide better connectivity in rural and remote areas.

There aren't any subscribers, so network load. Lol once you have users start popping we will see how BSNL will hold on.

BSNL has excellent infrastructure but is stuck with the old Babu staff that grew up with switch-based telephony tech and due to poor training don't fully understand the newer IP-based tech to which BSNL has migrated. That's why when it all works, it works superb - but if you have any issues, then support takes its own time in BSNL because only the newer, younger generation staff actually know how to fix stuff in the new systems.

Re: Facebook Takes $5.7B Stake in India’s Jio

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Post by kumarvvr »

mkbkn wrote: post #131
taikawatiti wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sheltered white liberal whose only window to the world is CNN or the occasional poverty tourism to Asia when he's not doing CSS programming thinks this is still 19th century and he gets to decide who rules a country. Newsflash- India is a democracy. While you guys were making up Russia collusion and giving pulitzers over it to subvert your own democracy (yes I'm an Indian in India from where it's easy to see US polit…

No one has problem with Hinduism. The problem is with Hindutva & bhakts.

No. This is a bland lie. What exactly about Hindutva dont you like?

What about Hindutva ideology do you find un acceptable?

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