Have anyone used both https://redwoodjs.com and Nextjs and share their experience?
Interested in this, too.
Vercel, formerly Zeit, raises $21M Series A
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Re: Vercel, formerly Zeit, raises $21M Series A
#152I liked Zeit but had to switch because there was no way to get IP addresses to whitelist, so Vercel customers are likely to get hacked, because they’re forced to secure their database with only a password, and no firewall. Apparently you can fix this with an “enterprise” subscription, which is a huge red flag. Open source doesn’t get secure data? Vercel is likely to get hit with huge lawsuits over that, and I’m stayi…
What lawsuits? Don't virtually all open-source licenses in existence disclaim any warranty or fitness for a particular purpose?
Re: Vercel, formerly Zeit, raises $21M Series A
#153As someone who has been involved in many branding projects, it is amusing to see all the negative commentary on the rebrand. This is human nature 101. Everyone always hates rebrands. In fact I am willing to bet that the executives who eventually bought into this new name also hated the new name when they heard it. Whenever we presented a new name to a company that wanted to be rebranded, we always asked them not to p…
Yeah, a rebranding will always sound weird at first. The question is whether the upside is better in the long-term - time will tell. Vercel does sound good (though does sound close to parcel for me and also reads like vermicelli a bit). For "Zeit" I am biased, since I speak German and it translates to "time" (and there's a large circulation newspaper called "Zeit"... well, actually "Die Zeit" which reads funny in Eng…
>For "Zeit" I am biased
Biased which way, did you think it was good or bad?
Re: Vercel, formerly Zeit, raises $21M Series A
#154Congrats on the funding, but I'd like to know what prompted the name change. ZEIT sounded mysterious and edgy, while Vercel sounds like a company selling expensive handbags (to me).
EDIT: Not sure why, but from the article: > Vercel strongly connects to the words versatile, accelerate, and excel.
That's not the "reason" though, that's the rationalization
Re: Vercel, formerly Zeit, raises $21M Series A
#155Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, not having your name instantly googleable in Germany (a big economy with a lot of developers) is probably a hindrance. Not to mention how stupid it would be to use in a sentence, imagine calling your product "Time", and a developer says e.g. "we're having issues with time.."
A lot of products sound stupid when used in a sentence before you get used to them. We're having issues with zoom... We're having issues with chrome... We're having issues with word...
The less nonsensical the word in context, the more confusing it is though. Do you dispute that "we're having issues with time" is much more vague and overloaded, than "we're having issues with zoom"?
Re: Vercel, formerly Zeit, raises $21M Series A
#156As someone who has been involved in many branding projects, it is amusing to see all the negative commentary on the rebrand. This is human nature 101. Everyone always hates rebrands. In fact I am willing to bet that the executives who eventually bought into this new name also hated the new name when they heard it. Whenever we presented a new name to a company that wanted to be rebranded, we always asked them not to p…
Related: ConvertKit rebranded to seva and then fairly promptly rolled the decision back based on customer feedback. https://convertkit.com/staying-convertkit gives details. I was pleased at the reversion, though for completely different reasons: I think the rebrand was foolish purely because it went from a memorable name with meaning (even if that meaning didn’t exactly match the purpose for all of their customers) t…
wow, i wasnt even aware of that rebrand. seva sounds so awful, whereas im already super invested in the ConvertKit story. good reversal of decision there.
Re: Vercel, formerly Zeit, raises $21M Series A
#157I’m surprised to see so many people nagging about the brand. As one user pointed out, there’s a big newspaper brand with that name already. And otherwise, who cares, really? Same company. It’s not a soccer team.
I think the discussion would be different if the new name was better.
Replacing zeit makes sense, not sure the chosen replacement was any good.
Re: Vercel, formerly Zeit, raises $21M Series A
#158Have anyone used both https://redwoodjs.com and Nextjs and share their experience?
ive tried out both. next.js focuses very much on the SSR/SSG job, whereas Redwood both stretches further in front of the stack (with Cells and a Form library) and further back in the stack (with Prisma/GraphQL). next is a lot more mature (5yrs?) whereas redwood is new. that help?
Re: Vercel, formerly Zeit, raises $21M Series A
#159Earlier quoted context omitted.
Python works great on Now once you figure out how to deploy it there. The lack of detailed documentation around Python does make me nervous that they may drop support for it some day though. My notes on running a Python app on Now v2: https://github.com/simonw/til/blob/master/zeit-now/python-as...
Yeah they had Go support and yanked it. I don't use go but was surprised. Seems like at times they are hoping to be all things to everyone and at times trying to be really focused (although we might disagree with where they are focusing).
Wait, they don't support Go? It advertises that on their pricing page... https://vercel.com/pricing
And it's listed in their support docs here... https://vercel.com/docs/runtimes#official-runtimes
Re: Vercel, formerly Zeit, raises $21M Series A
#160Have anyone used both https://redwoodjs.com and Nextjs and share their experience?
Redwood doesn't hide their tutorial behind an account like Nextjs does, they're more user friendly. And it was impressive how smooth it went considering the underlying complexity of the tech stack.