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Ask HN: How to get back to web programming after a 8-years break?

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Re: Ask HN: How to get back to web programming after a 8-years break?

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These roadmaps (especially frontend) might be helpful: https://roadmap.sh/roadmaps

Thank you so much! The visualisation makes it very clear to see where I stand. I love it. It's funny to see how much has been developed after the "Build Tools" section in those past few years. Most of the technologies were in beta a few years ago.

Re: Ask HN: How to get back to web programming after a 8-years break?

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post #9

Laravel is even more popular now. I'd checkout Laravel again, Laracasts.com might be a nice place to start. If you liked Angular checkout Vue and Alpine js. Good luck with your SaaS.

Thanks! I think I'll go with Laravel indeed. Vue.js looks more adapted than React, but would that be a bit more difficult to develop a mobile app with Vue than with React (using React Native)?

Re: Ask HN: How to get back to web programming after a 8-years break?

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You haven’t missed anything and your skills are still relevant if you want to solve problems . Laravel or Python with server-side rendered pages is still perfectly valid and will be better than the majority of websites today. People who say otherwise have their career at stake because they know nothing but React and need to use it everywhere (regardless of whether it’s necessary) to ensure their survival. You don’t n…

Thanks a lot!

Re: Ask HN: How to get back to web programming after a 8-years break?

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Laravel is still awesome and VueJS is really popular with Laravel devs right now (afaik). Vue is super easy to work with and there's a ton of documentation and examples for integrating it with Laravel. If I were in your position, I'd go with that stack.

Perfect thanks. I'll go with Laravel. I still have a question about how Vue does on mobile, but a quick search for Vue.js made it clear how easy it is.

Re: Ask HN: How to get back to web programming after a 8-years break?

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I find Django a good place for rapid development, Laravel is also great and cranking out new features all the time, but I feel the rate of change is too high for me. There's lots of options for frontend but since you wrote "Mobile accessibility (PWA or native) and having a nice design are a must", there's no way around than digging deeper into frontend / design. I haven't seen a no-code tool (a la Webflow) that trans…

Ok, glad to have a python-point of view. Why did you switch from Laravel to Django? I prefer to use Python than PHP, but except for data-science stuff, I never used python for web dev. I suspect that the learning curve is not that steep?

Re: Ask HN: How to get back to web programming after a 8-years break?

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post #3

Fundaments haven't changed much. Pick a JS framework and go from there. It's gotten more complicated, indeed. But, if you're building projects of your own, you're free to ignore it as there are not that many palpable benefits, and your users / customers couldn't care less about underlying tech stack.

Eactly. I was targeting personal ease of use. I remember that handling authentification in JS was a pure nightmare, so I have a strong bias towards frameworks handling that for me.

Re: Ask HN: How to get back to web programming after a 8-years break?

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post #3

Fundaments haven't changed much. Pick a JS framework and go from there. It's gotten more complicated, indeed. But, if you're building projects of your own, you're free to ignore it as there are not that many palpable benefits, and your users / customers couldn't care less about underlying tech stack.

Eactly. I was targeting personal ease of use. I remember that handling authentification in JS was a pure nightmare, so I have a strong bias towards frameworks handling that for me.

80% of cases, you don't need a framework.
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