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Re: Coronavirus clue? Most cases aboard U.S. aircraft carrier are symptom-free

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Post by arcticbull » Tue, Apr 21, 2020, 8:47 AM UTC

jacobush wrote: post #391

arcticbull wrote: post #381

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Well it’s fair to say that neither has the government, if anyone dies in possession of COVID they’re automatically a COVID death, pretty much even if they get hit by a truck. That’s not true of the flu is it?

No, because people die every day and no tests are run if they had the virus.

And indeed they can be counted as COVID deaths if they had respiratory illnesses because the CDC direction is to count any suspicion of COVID or the contribution thereof as a COVID death. [1]

[1] https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/coronavirus/Alert-2-New-I...

Re: Coronavirus clue? Most cases aboard U.S. aircraft carrier are symptom-free

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Post by arcticbull » Tue, Apr 21, 2020, 8:48 AM UTC

chiefalchemist wrote: post #451

arcticbull wrote: post #381

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Well it’s fair to say that neither has the government, if anyone dies in possession of COVID they’re automatically a COVID death, pretty much even if they get hit by a truck. That’s not true of the flu is it?

From what I've read the CDC has told med facilities to code any death that is even suspected to be C19 as C19. No test? Doesn't matter. Patient had other serious conditions? Doesn't matter. With broader testing limited and deaths from being inflated the IFR should be suspect.

You are in fact correct, and you are welcome to use this CDC guidance as a reference in the future, should it come up: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/coronavirus/Alert-2-New-I...

Re: Coronavirus clue? Most cases aboard U.S. aircraft carrier are symptom-free

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Post by asdf21 » Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 7:10 PM UTC

roca wrote: post #318

asdf21 wrote: post #207

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Same, I had it starting January 4th in the SF (North) Bay Area, I'm about 90% sure. I was probably basically a super spreader too, tbh. I went to work every day, 'cause I tend to power through whatever is thrown at me. At least I avoided shaking hands. People were even talking about it back then... they didn't know it was Corona, but friends I know who are nurses were saying there is a "weird, bad respiratory infecti…

There is strong evidence COVID-19 was not circulating in the Bay Area in January. Samples collected by the Seattle Flu Study in Jan/Feb 2020 have been retested and COVID-19 was not found before Feb 21. As Trevor Bedford says, had COVID-19 been circulating in CA it almost certainly would have showed up quickly in WA. There is other evidence based on the genetics of sequenced viruses. Details: https://twitter.com/trvrb…

Thoughts?

https://www.straitstimes.com/world/united-states/coronavirus...

Re: Coronavirus clue? Most cases aboard U.S. aircraft carrier are symptom-free

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Post by weeksie » Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 3:22 PM UTC

Mikeb85 wrote: post #525

weeksie wrote: post #278

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How would more asymptomatic cases make this an overblown situation? Sure, there's evidence that there are lots of unreported cases but there's also quite incontrovertible evidence of death spikes in places that didn't implement swift restrictions. I get being frustrated at lockdown but your reasoning sounds motivated to me.

More asymptomatic and mild cases would lower the death rate to something more akin to the flu. It would also mean that we'll achieve herd immunity quicker than previously assumed. Lots of the fear was based on assumptions that this would be as deadly as SARS or MERS but at this rate we're looking at overall deaths that is slightly higher than the flu but lower than things like cancer or heart disease.

Head in the sand.