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Re: Join Diaspora with these 25 simple steps (github)

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Post by diego »

kylec wrote: post #8

One of the big disadvantages to using web frameworks like Rails or Django for open web applications is that the deployment is very tedious, at least compared with something like PHP. Something that requires having root access to a *nix server and takes 25 steps to install is never going to be mainstream - you need something that a 13-year-old could put up on a shared hosting account (i.e. phpBB) to really get tractio…

Have you heard of Heroku? They were YC's largest exit to date largely due to solving exactly that problem! It doesn't get any easier than Heroku.

Re: Join Diaspora with these 25 simple steps (github)

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Post by trotsky »

A lot of that is packaging issues. While they might never be able to get it down to a one click install, one installer script could probably take care of most of those steps at some point.

I haven't looked at diaspora in 3-4 months, but based on where it was then I find it hard to believe that anyone should be downloading and running it right now that isn't a developer/SA type and expecting a fair degree of pain. In that way the install process is a bit of a gatekeeper. If they made it super ultra easy to install and run but code quality / feature completion was still in the toilet what would they have gained? No reason for them to work on the installer right now.

I'm not too sure diaspora is going to end up all wine and roses, but they only claim to be in "alpha" release for now, give the kids a break.

THIS IS PRE-ALPHA SOFTWARE AND SHOULD BE TREATED ACCORDINGLY. PLEASE, DO NOT RUN IN PRODUCTION. IT IS FUN TO GET RUNNING, BUT EXPECT THINGS TO BE BROKEN.

Re: Join Diaspora with these 25 simple steps (github)

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Post by Stevenup7002 »

rchowe wrote: post #13
jedsmith wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Diaspora is much more significant in that it solves the gay bar problem of social networking I had to go through the slides to understand this: basically, it said in the case of a woman they did research on, she commented and liked photos of her friends at the gay bar, but her ten-year-old students could see those comments too. The thesis was that a bunch of her social groups that shouldn't interact were forced to…

It created "Aspects", or groups of friends, and you post things to specific aspects or to all aspects. Only the people in that aspect will see updates.

So, Facebook groups?

Re: Join Diaspora with these 25 simple steps (github)

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Post by rchowe »

Stevenup7002 wrote: post #23
rchowe wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It created "Aspects", or groups of friends, and you post things to specific aspects or to all aspects. Only the people in that aspect will see updates.

So, Facebook groups?

Each person has their own aspects and (AFAIK) the list is private. So you can separate the different parts of your life without them all having to be in a group. For instance, your college friends are likely to all belong to the same group, but your work friends aren't. If you have a work aspect, you can post things only they can see.

Interestingly enough, it probably eliminates employers looking on Facebook for information about candidates before hiring them.

Re: Join Diaspora with these 25 simple steps (github)

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Post by michaelchisari »

diego wrote: post #21
kylec wrote: post #8

One of the big disadvantages to using web frameworks like Rails or Django for open web applications is that the deployment is very tedious, at least compared with something like PHP. Something that requires having root access to a *nix server and takes 25 steps to install is never going to be mainstream - you need something that a 13-year-old could put up on a shared hosting account (i.e. phpBB) to really get tractio…

Have you heard of Heroku? They were YC's largest exit to date largely due to solving exactly that problem! It doesn't get any easier than Heroku.

Heroku's great, but the cheapest plan they have is $36 a month. There are shared hosts out there that cost $1.99.

Re: Join Diaspora with these 25 simple steps (github)

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Post by Joakal »

rchowe wrote: post #13
jedsmith wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Diaspora is much more significant in that it solves the gay bar problem of social networking I had to go through the slides to understand this: basically, it said in the case of a woman they did research on, she commented and liked photos of her friends at the gay bar, but her ten-year-old students could see those comments too. The thesis was that a bunch of her social groups that shouldn't interact were forced to…

It created "Aspects", or groups of friends, and you post things to specific aspects or to all aspects. Only the people in that aspect will see updates.

So, posting is limited to friends? Friends of friends? Friends of friends of friends? Search? Public?
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