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If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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If all you ever do is consume digital media, yes the iPad could replace your PC. But PCs are also widley used to produce content, which is something the iPad can't do at all. Where does Apple think all the stuff they sell on iTunes, the AppStore, iBooks comes from? It's not being made on the iPad, thats for sure.

iPads absolutely can produce content. The new GarageBand and iMovie apps are perfect examples of just how much potential the iPad has for creation.

Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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Because syncing a 32gb personal collection of music, movies and photos wirelessly takes too long? Funny I think it's only people without any iTunes purchase complaining about this. The ones enjoying the media capabilities of the iPad, capabilities completely missing from Android, have no complains.

That's completly besides the point. Also why the hell are you claiming Android have no media capabilities, I don't think you know what you are talking about.

Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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Because syncing a 32gb personal collection of music, movies and photos wirelessly takes too long? Funny I think it's only people without any iTunes purchase complaining about this. The ones enjoying the media capabilities of the iPad, capabilities completely missing from Android, have no complains.

If you're looking for someone, I have iTunes purchases, and I'm not happy about it.

1) What are these magical capabilities you're talking about that are so egregiously missing from Android? At least with my Droid, I can download software to let me sync wirelessly.

2) When I get new music, why do I have to a) go through the steps of adding it to iTunes b) connect my iPad to sync c) connect my iPod touch to sync d) connect my iPod nano to sync? When Apple's pushing us to buy all these devices, it would definitely be convenient to have it sync wirelessly (or even just sync the stupid folder in iTunes). I don't care if it takes long if I never have to invest any of my time to do it.

3) I don't see how iTunes purchases changes any of this?

Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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post #9

Because syncing a 32gb personal collection of music, movies and photos wirelessly takes too long? Funny I think it's only people without any iTunes purchase complaining about this. The ones enjoying the media capabilities of the iPad, capabilities completely missing from Android, have no complains.

But what if you don't want to sync all of that? The article made it clear that the problem is that you need to connect to iTunes just to turn the iPad on the first time.

Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Out of curiosity, how much storage have you been able to get on your Android device?

You can get at least 32GB on most of the phones (plus internal storage ranging from 512MB to 4GB). Some of them may support SDXC, meaning you can go beyond 32GB (I know there are 64GB cards for purchase, probably larger ones for insane prices). Link to 32GB card that will work in just about all Android devices: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139...

Thanks, I just ordered one. I have a G2 now, but I've had everything from the G1 to the CLIQ to the MyTouch Slide and it's been really confusing figuring out what microSD will work and what won't.

I don't know what the technical issues are, but I can't wait until you can match the storage of an iPod. I love doubleTwist, and if I could have it just sync everything automatically it would be so ideal, but my collection is way too big, but it fits on the biggest iPod so I end up still carrying both.

Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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The author seems to assume that Apple is either unaware of the contradiction or aware of it with no plan to change. In other words, that the management of Apple is either stupid or blind. Recent history does not suggest that either is the case. It seems more likely to me that Apple is very much aware of the contradiction but has plans to change this, but no intention of telling us about it yet. Gotta wonder what that…

I don't make either assumption. I've staked quite a bit of my lively hood on building apps for Apple products. I wouldn't do this if I thought they were stupid or blind. I just don't buy the "Post-PC" device story they are telling with the iPad quite yet.

Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The initial sync didn't seem to take that long on a 802.11n connection using DoubleTwist/AirSync. (around 20G music/videos). But that's besides the point - the neat thing about wireless sync is that you don't have to wait with the device physically tied up to your PC. In my case I was using it while the sync happened in the background. More over with wireless sync - I buy my MP3s at Amazon on my laptop and they autom…

Out of curiosity, how much storage have you been able to get on your Android device?

4Gb(Internal) + 32Gb(external) on my Nexus One. 32Gb(Internal)+32Gb(External) on Xoom - external one awaiting a software update.

There are Android devices that go up to 48Gb (16+32) IIRC.

Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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The author seems to assume that Apple is either unaware of the contradiction or aware of it with no plan to change. In other words, that the management of Apple is either stupid or blind. Recent history does not suggest that either is the case. It seems more likely to me that Apple is very much aware of the contradiction but has plans to change this, but no intention of telling us about it yet. Gotta wonder what that…

The author mentions the data center and it's likelihood as a solution. His point was that until that DC comes on line and is used as a solution it's disingenuous to call the iPad a post-pc device because it isn't, it's a peripheral.

If and when they fix that then you can start calling a post-pc device.

Meanwhile an Android pad really is a post-pc device right now no waiting.

Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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post #18

If all you ever do is consume digital media, yes the iPad could replace your PC. But PCs are also widley used to produce content, which is something the iPad can't do at all. Where does Apple think all the stuff they sell on iTunes, the AppStore, iBooks comes from? It's not being made on the iPad, thats for sure.

iPads absolutely can produce content. The new GarageBand and iMovie apps are perfect examples of just how much potential the iPad has for creation.

Potential sure, but the new GarageBand etc. are still just toys, even if Steve claims otherwise. No body is gonna use GarageBand or iMovies to produce something, that gets sold on iTunes.
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