I am putting this here to help others. Fry me whateveter. I'm no medical or WHO but I also prepared and knew it was coming week 1 of Jan. I have made many accurate predictions weeks or months ahead this while time so time it for what you paid. It's pulmonary edima 'esque yes, but it's an underlying issue that I think is a big determining factor in who lives and who dies. Lung capacity sure is important BUT the lungs strangle themselves by on over immune system response to fight this aka inflammation. And that's it. Most Americans eat tons of sugar and carbs. They are walking around already in a state of heavy gut inflammation unknowingly. Chrone's and IBS are rampant too. I have seen several people who say the 'normally' struggle with lower immune responses get through it ok. Because the start with a lower inflammation baseline. Others are starting already heavily inflamed due to diets, and then when they get COVID it the lugs over inflame as well causing medicinal issues I don't know the specifics of but that I think can be deadly. Over inflammation has a name and it's not good. It can cause all sorts of other issues and being over inflamed in your lungs well we know what happens then. Fast. Do a prolonged fast for a few days. Only black coffee and water. This will create new white blood cells. This will eliminate gut inflammation. It will reset your old immune system with a healthy new one. You go 72hrs you will also get Autophogy and new stem cells. I can go on but if my post Sparks your interest, and you might agree what do you have to lose? A few days without food I do it all the time. If I'm wrong why not try and save your life by giving you a heads start with no already in state inflammation? It will be healthy for you either way. Also look at the curves and national diets.
How does the coronavirus kill?
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Re: How does the coronavirus kill?
#32I wonder if there is something in your immune system, maybe genetic or your viral experience, that determines how well your body will cope with this new virus. There are reports of really old people (I read a 103 and 99 year old's stories) who recovered from a bout, yet my niece lost a 30 year old friend. I guess its like debugging an app you have never seen and the source code is in a language you barely know; every…
Ya inflammation. See my post above.
Re: How does the coronavirus kill?
#33I wonder if there is something in your immune system, maybe genetic or your viral experience, that determines how well your body will cope with this new virus. There are reports of really old people (I read a 103 and 99 year old's stories) who recovered from a bout, yet my niece lost a 30 year old friend. I guess its like debugging an app you have never seen and the source code is in a language you barely know; every…
This was very true for the H1N1 epidemic but it's not clear something like this is happening with Covid. If anything, the opposite might be happening where prior infection with a related virus makes the current infection much worse.
Do you have any sources for that last sentence?
Re: How does the coronavirus kill?
#34Cameron Kyle-Sidell is a New York ICU doctor that has been trying to help figure out why treatments aren't working as expected. His videos are highly technical but interesting to watch. Kyle-Sidell believes it's a diffusion hypoxemia problem, leading to pulmonary edema (which is something you see in high-altitude sickness) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmRlvX3VrAQ&feature=youtu.be https://twitter.com/cameronks/stat…
The hypothesis suggested in the science article sounds more plausible - these patients are truly oxygen deprived, but potentially because of the vascular Nature of the infection, the typical gasping response is not initiated
I know nothing about medicine, but is there any way to skip the lungs and give patients oxygenated red blood cells directly?
Re: How does the coronavirus kill?
#35I am putting this here to help others. Fry me whateveter. I'm no medical or WHO but I also prepared and knew it was coming week 1 of Jan. I have made many accurate predictions weeks or months ahead this while time so time it for what you paid. It's pulmonary edima 'esque yes, but it's an underlying issue that I think is a big determining factor in who lives and who dies. Lung capacity sure is important BUT the lungs…
Proposing intermittent fasting as a cure for COVID-19 with no clinical research is dubious. This is the same as any other quack medicine.
Ironically carb consumption is important to maintain immune function in very active individuals.
Re: How does the coronavirus kill?
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
The hypothesis suggested in the science article sounds more plausible - these patients are truly oxygen deprived, but potentially because of the vascular Nature of the infection, the typical gasping response is not initiated
I know nothing about medicine, but is there any way to skip the lungs and give patients oxygenated red blood cells directly?
Re: How does the coronavirus kill?
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
The hypothesis suggested in the science article sounds more plausible - these patients are truly oxygen deprived, but potentially because of the vascular Nature of the infection, the typical gasping response is not initiated
I know nothing about medicine, but is there any way to skip the lungs and give patients oxygenated red blood cells directly?
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Re: How does the coronavirus kill?
#38I am putting this here to help others. Fry me whateveter. I'm no medical or WHO but I also prepared and knew it was coming week 1 of Jan. I have made many accurate predictions weeks or months ahead this while time so time it for what you paid. It's pulmonary edima 'esque yes, but it's an underlying issue that I think is a big determining factor in who lives and who dies. Lung capacity sure is important BUT the lungs…
> This will create new white blood cells. This will eliminate gut inflammation. It will reset your old immune system with a healthy new one.
How are you measuring these results?
Re: How does the coronavirus kill?
#39Interesting read. My father-in-law died of Covid-19 last week. The thing that got him in the end after a 9 day battle was kidney failure. He had heart problems and diabetes already as underlying conditions. There’s one thing I take away from all of this and that is to eat and live healthy to reduce the things working against you as you get older. Age is bad enough on its own.
NYT just has an article about kidney failure being a cause of death for COVID patients: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/18/health/kidney-dialysis-co...
Thanks - will read.
Re: How does the coronavirus kill?
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
This was very true for the H1N1 epidemic but it's not clear something like this is happening with Covid. If anything, the opposite might be happening where prior infection with a related virus makes the current infection much worse.
Do you have any sources for that last sentence?
What kind of source would satisfy you for "the opposite might be happening..."?