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Re: Covid-19’s impact on Tor

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Post by zipwitch »

A4ET8a8uTh0 wrote: post #143
zipwitch wrote: post #137

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The facile answer is, "have an educated public who can make those decisions themselves". But it seems clear to me that the "educated public" approach has failed . The spread of memetic hazards has risen to the level where a significant segment of the public have been robbed of their ability to think critically, and the post-Enlightenment consensus that objective reality exists is under attack. Beyond fighting a Fabia…

I disagree to an extent, but it is a compelling argument. Can you elaborate on Fabian struggle? I never heard the expression used.

The expression is derived from 'Fabian strategy'[1], but the 'strategy' part didn't seem quite appropriate, since this isn't a military campaign. I've heard it before, but a quick round of googling shows that the 'Fabian struggle' construction is considerably rarer than I expected.

1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_strategy

Re: Covid-19’s impact on Tor

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Post by tchaffee »

zipwitch wrote: post #148
ThrowawayR2 wrote: post #141

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> " And that means talking (and doing something) about the 'propaganda, misinformation, and outright lies' " The problem with your viewpoint is that, unless you plan to remove the ability of large swaths of the population who have been "robbed of their ability to think critically" to vote, ending democracy as we know it, whichever authority you construct to define what is "true" may not remain under the control of yo…

I reject the presumptions that the only possible response is a unitary authority and that we shouldn't do anything in response because any such response is automatically going to be bad. Come, on, this is Hacker News ! Why do we have to have a single central authority? We ought to at least be willing to speculate about AI-mediated Blockchains of Truth that reward factually accurate reporting. Or about ways to smoothl…

The options you described just leave us with a less direct version of what we have now. Someone owns and runs media companies because it is a source of influence and income. Someone will run the AI-mediated Blockchains of Truth, etc for the same reasons. All you will accomplish is shifting the power around momentarily, perhaps even to worse actors than we have now. But even if your ideas are very vague they are at least approaching concrete which is good because we can compare with existing solutions. But looking at those ideas, I don't see anything promising there.

Re: Covid-19’s impact on Tor

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Post by willis936 »

Renaud wrote: post #19

They are too dependent on government sponsorship. 80% of their funding comes from the US government in some shape. I would imagine that a project of that importance deserves to be able to be self-sufficient. A US$2M budget/year is not that much, (m|b)illionaires making their money from the Internet could easily sponsor the project. Better yet, having grass-root sponsorship is even more important. Maybe they need mark…

But removing fed funding would mean they have to remove their honeypot backdoors.

Re: Covid-19’s impact on Tor

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Post by ThrowawayR2 »

zipwitch wrote: post #148
ThrowawayR2 wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> " And that means talking (and doing something) about the 'propaganda, misinformation, and outright lies' " The problem with your viewpoint is that, unless you plan to remove the ability of large swaths of the population who have been "robbed of their ability to think critically" to vote, ending democracy as we know it, whichever authority you construct to define what is "true" may not remain under the control of yo…

I reject the presumptions that the only possible response is a unitary authority and that we shouldn't do anything in response because any such response is automatically going to be bad. Come, on, this is Hacker News ! Why do we have to have a single central authority? We ought to at least be willing to speculate about AI-mediated Blockchains of Truth that reward factually accurate reporting. Or about ways to smoothl…

Yes, this is Hacker News and that means we understand systems thinking.

Either the people collectively get a say in what is "factually accurate", an ill-defined concept in the first place, or they don't (authoritarianism); the mechanics do not matter. And if we accept your premise that large swaths of the population have been "robbed of their ability to think critically", then whatever the system decides is "factually accurate" will be corrupted if the people have a say in it. Or, in other words, "garbage in, garbage out".

If there are other options, please articulate them.

Re: Covid-19’s impact on Tor

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Post by skrowl »

chance_state wrote: post #150
andrepd wrote: post #98

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It really is not. Right to physical assembly is something that should be restricted in the middle of a global pandemic , since that right cannot trump the right of life of hundreds of thousands of people. Same for the right to travel. Rights such as free speech or right to private property may be broken in more extreme cases such as war. Pretending that nuanced reality doesn't exist is the definition of "rights absol…

Could not disagree more. The entire point of enumerating rights in the constitution and it's amendments is so that they are _not_ subject to changing circumstances.

The person you're replying to clearly doesn't know what inalienable means.

Re: Covid-19’s impact on Tor

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Post by skrowl »

andrepd wrote: post #128
fapjacks wrote: post #123

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No. Because tin-pot shitholes -- and the people trying to make them -- have, can, and will always find some new "threat" with which to justify taking away civil liberties. Things similar to what you have said here about "nuanced reality" with respect to civil liberties have always been for me a pretty good smell test for underlying authoritarian beliefs. In ANY context, it's possible to point to something as justific…

I'm not familiar with the concept of "tin-pot shithole". >have, can, and will always find some new "threat" with which to justify taking away civil liberties. So slippery slope, is what you're arguing? "First they make a completely reasonable and temporary restriction of right of physical assembly, next we'll be off to the gulags." Isn't really an interesting argument, is it?

Look at the circumstance under which the Patriot Act was created

Re: Covid-19’s impact on Tor

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Post by nbar1 »

mjayhn wrote: post #140
nbar1 wrote: post #131

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Unfortunately for me, I was a remote worker already (worked there for a month shy of 6 years). Hopefully, my position (React/Node FS Dev) is in high enough demand after all this to resume working remotely with a comfortable salary. I've already had offers for remote but they require me to relocate after the pandemic is over, which is really clogging up the job boards.

I'm sorry to hear about that but I'm sure you'll do great w/a react/node background I'm not even involved in front-end but I know quite a few places always hiring good react/node devs (albeit they might be in a freeze right now). Give https://github.com/yanirs/established-remote and https://github.com/remoteintech/remote-jobs a look.

Thanks for the links, definitely gonna check it out!

Re: Covid-19’s impact on Tor

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Post by nbar1 »

wdb wrote: post #135
nbar1 wrote: post #131

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Unfortunately for me, I was a remote worker already (worked there for a month shy of 6 years). Hopefully, my position (React/Node FS Dev) is in high enough demand after all this to resume working remotely with a comfortable salary. I've already had offers for remote but they require me to relocate after the pandemic is over, which is really clogging up the job boards.

I haven't found much jobs which offer remote working as they mostly based in the US.

Luckily I am based in the US, but I am unable to travel (for personal reasons) which is also an interview dead-end for a lot of companies that want you to come spend a week for initiation and meet up a few times a year.

Re: Covid-19’s impact on Tor

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Post by [deleted] »

SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #62
roenxi wrote: post #56

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So just quickly glancing at Wikipedia [0] it looks like most of the major line items for the LGBTQ+ agenda have been part of US Federal law for about 5+ years. The LGBTQ+ community are basically ordinary people from all walks of life, including prominent names like Tim Cook and Pete Buttigieg. The community has I believe explicit public support from culture generating machines like Hollywood and political entities li…

There are still a few residual gay rights issues, but over the past few years, LGBTQ+ rights has come to primarily refer to trans rights. One of the ACLU's major recent campaigns is that trans girls should be allowed to play on girls' sports teams, for example - that's seen as an important right nowadays, but it's not on the checklist because it was never relevant for gay people.

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Re: Covid-19’s impact on Tor

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Post by gdy »

SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #62
roenxi wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So just quickly glancing at Wikipedia [0] it looks like most of the major line items for the LGBTQ+ agenda have been part of US Federal law for about 5+ years. The LGBTQ+ community are basically ordinary people from all walks of life, including prominent names like Tim Cook and Pete Buttigieg. The community has I believe explicit public support from culture generating machines like Hollywood and political entities li…

There are still a few residual gay rights issues, but over the past few years, LGBTQ+ rights has come to primarily refer to trans rights. One of the ACLU's major recent campaigns is that trans girls should be allowed to play on girls' sports teams, for example - that's seen as an important right nowadays, but it's not on the checklist because it was never relevant for gay people.

>trans girls should be allowed to play on girls' sports teams

Why do we have girls' teams at all?

Isn't it sexist?

Like, I don't know, saying "You cannot compete with men, go play dolls"?

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