Chess fans won't have to wait long to see a rematch between the pair, as they face off once again on April 20 in the $250,000 Magnus Carlsen Invitational. The competition, hosted by Carlsen, will pit eight of the world's best players against each other for the record prize. Anyone knows if this can be watched Live?
Iranian teen shocks Magnus Carlsen to win $14k prize
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Re: Iranian teen shocks Magnus Carlsen to win $14k prize
#32Why is Alireza Firouzja being referred to as "Iranian teen"? He's an international top player. I doubt that Carlsen was referred to as "Norwegian teen" when he was ranking in the top 25. p.s: As always: responses > downvotes.
You're getting downvoted because your doubts are easily falsified by a search. https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/norwegian-teen-top...
Point taken, but to my taste it's quite disrespectful to refer to the best player in the world as just "Norwegian teen".
Re: Iranian teen shocks Magnus Carlsen to win $14k prize
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because "person beats Magnus Carlsen" isn't nearly as interesting a headline as "really young person beats Magnus Carlsen" - the latter gives us a sense that we should be surprised. I think you're seeing racism where there is none.
Nothing wrong with pointing out that he's young. But he still has a name, and you've got to wonder about the significance of him being Iranian.
Chess, like olympic sports, is weirdly nationalistic and a source of national pride. I'm not much of a history expert, but I suspect that was largely caused by the soviet union deciding that they would be the best at it.
As for not using his name, try and write the headline both mentioning his name, and his age. It's just clunky.
Re: Iranian teen shocks Magnus Carlsen to win $14k prize
#34Chess fans won't have to wait long to see a rematch between the pair, as they face off once again on April 20 in the $250,000 Magnus Carlsen Invitational. The competition, hosted by Carlsen, will pit eight of the world's best players against each other for the record prize. Anyone knows if this can be watched Live?
Yes, on chess24.com with two matches every day and commentary from top players from now until May 3. Probably on other sites too but chess24 is hosting the event and typically has the highest-quality commentary.
Re: Iranian teen shocks Magnus Carlsen to win $14k prize
#35Why is Alireza Firouzja being referred to as "Iranian teen"? He's an international top player. I doubt that Carlsen was referred to as "Norwegian teen" when he was ranking in the top 25. p.s: As always: responses > downvotes.
“Iranian teen” makes it a better headline, anonymizing him makes it more of an out-of-nowhere sports story. Stop looking for racism in everything, you’re looking to stir something up when there’s nothing there. (And I see you’ve edited your comment to remove the “this is racist” rant)
out-of-nowhere sports story
I’m more annoyed by the headline’s implication that Carlsen would find this defeat shocking. He wouldn’t. Magnus and Alireza have been acquainted for a few years now. They’ve played many times. Carlsen is fully aware of how strong his opponent is.
Re: Iranian teen shocks Magnus Carlsen to win $14k prize
#36Chess fans won't have to wait long to see a rematch between the pair, as they face off once again on April 20 in the $250,000 Magnus Carlsen Invitational. The competition, hosted by Carlsen, will pit eight of the world's best players against each other for the record prize. Anyone knows if this can be watched Live?
Re: Iranian teen shocks Magnus Carlsen to win $14k prize
#37Chess is one of the few fields where dominance can easily stretch into several decades - if you're a young prodigy you may breach into top level in your teenage years and last well until your 50s or 60s. Of course you won't be #1 this whole time (check out Lasker's longevity though) but you will always remain a top contender.
> Chess is one of the few fields where dominance can easily stretch into several decades Easily? No. The only player to have the top rating longer than 10 years is kasparov. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_FIDE_chess_world_numbe... > if you're a young prodigy you may breach into top level in your teenage years and last well until your 50s or 60s. Of course you won't be #1 this whole time (check out Lasker's lon…
Korchnoi was still in the top 100 at the age of 76.
Of course "easily" is a vast exaggeration.
Re: Iranian teen shocks Magnus Carlsen to win $14k prize
#38Chess is one of the few fields where dominance can easily stretch into several decades - if you're a young prodigy you may breach into top level in your teenage years and last well until your 50s or 60s. Of course you won't be #1 this whole time (check out Lasker's longevity though) but you will always remain a top contender.
I would like to differ on this. It's getting harder and harder to maintain dominance. Kasparov was the one to hold the longest. Magnus, even though he is one of the best ever, is already losing out to Alireza in bullet, blitz and even almost in classical. Chess theory has a new Renaissance due to neutral networks and we will see newer GM's adapting to it.
In fact, it was Magnus himself (currently 29 years old, as of April 2020) who said his favorite chess player was himself, when he was around 23. That Magnus apparently saw things on the board that current (overwhelmingly dominant) Magnus can't any more. So even in chess there's a physical prime, just like in pretty much any other sport.
Re: Iranian teen shocks Magnus Carlsen to win $14k prize
#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because "person beats Magnus Carlsen" isn't nearly as interesting a headline as "really young person beats Magnus Carlsen" - the latter gives us a sense that we should be surprised. I think you're seeing racism where there is none.
Nothing wrong with pointing out that he's young. But he still has a name, and you've got to wonder about the significance of him being Iranian.
If anything it's nice to see some good press for Iran on an American site. I fully expect him to be retconned as "French teen" or "American teen" or whatever else once he gets his new federation.
Re: Iranian teen shocks Magnus Carlsen to win $14k prize
#40Chess is one of the few fields where dominance can easily stretch into several decades - if you're a young prodigy you may breach into top level in your teenage years and last well until your 50s or 60s. Of course you won't be #1 this whole time (check out Lasker's longevity though) but you will always remain a top contender.
Formula 1 racing is similar.
Drivers become aś good as they every can in pure pure driving skill in karting when they are still teenagers. All skills needed for driving fast are developed early.
Rest of the career in F3/F2/GP2 feeder series to F1 is just maturing psychologically, getting experience and learning stuff you need outside the track. Ultimate skill level is already there or not. Drivers will eventually fade out when their physical performance declines in late 30's.
(actual career performance depends on cars, teams, money, business and marketing)