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Re: It’s Time to Build

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> .. but why has so much manufacturing been offshored to places with cheaper manual labor? We know how to build highly automated factories.

Western consumers have been voting with their wallets for decades - they want lots of cheap products.

If you want to get a new product produced today you'll likely be able to produce it much cheaper abroad, where there's a more efficient supply chain and cheap labour and with much less initial overhead.

Make your product more expensive you'll likely be out of business before the next global pandemic.

Re: It’s Time to Build

#642
> Why aren’t we building Elon Musk’s “alien dreadnoughts” — giant, gleaming, state of the art factories producing every conceivable kind of product, at the highest possible quality and lowest possible cost — all throughout our country?

> Where are the supersonic aircraft?

From an interview[1] with Sarah Lacy in 2018, Marc Andreessen already had the answers:

Q: Is there a way Andreessen Horowitz could stop backing more apps and throw some of the money towards the next SpaceX?

Andreessen:

The capital efficiency of having a small group of software programmers that build amazing software, who then go in and do something in an industry that’s 100 billion or trillion-dollar industry, existing venture capital structure and framework is very good at doing that.

It works very well when it works, and I think that’s very valuable. I always accuse Peter of dismissing all that stuff out of hand, which is probably an overstatement.

The part that I struggle with, and I’m on the verge of agreeing with, it’s SpaceX, it’s Tesla. The trenchant critique comes from Larry Page, Elon, and Peter. It’s like, “OK, software. Got it. What about electric cars? What about the Hyperloop? What about the SpaceX private rocketry?”

What about these bigger, more transformational things? In particular, what about the things that operate more in the real world? What about the things that are really going to affect natural resources, pollution, livability of cities, and all the things that are outside of whatever’s running on the screen?

I think that there’s a validity. Google is doing the self-driving car. The self-driving car is going to work. By the time it works, it will have cost hundreds of millions, and possibly billions of dollars to make work. The self-driving car is not a lean startup. Not in any way.

SpaceX and Tesla were not lean startups. They were very big, ambitious. They raised a lot of money. The big question, the question I’m noodling around, is what about the efforts where you have to say, “This thing is going to take $300 million?” It just is. There’s no shortcut and there’s no minimum viable product. It is going to take $300 million, and that $300 million has to be reserved ahead of time.

Those companies have to be run completely differently because the stakes are so much higher.

What kind of entrepreneur can do that? Elon has proven he can do it. There are not a lot of other people in the Valley today who have done things at that level of scale.

There’s a different kind of entrepreneur. There’s a different kind of idea. There’s a different kind of financing method. I think we’ll all collectively figure it out, but we don’t actually have it today.

What you get is you have a very special entrepreneur like Elon, and then he can do it. What I always say is, “OK, who is the next Elon? And then we’ll talk.”

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We need more VCs to bet on these ambitious ideas. No more Tiktok, please.

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[1]Original source: https://www.startups.com/library/expert-advice/marc-andreess...

[1]Snippet: https://allenleein.github.io/2020/03/11/pmarca-flying-car.ht...

Re: It’s Time to Build

#643
post #619

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a valid criticism and something that ran through my mind when reading the article. But keep in mind that there's orders of magnitude difference in what they invest vs. the federal government. According to these 2 articles, it could be around THREE orders of magnitude -- ~4 billion in for them in 2014 vs. ~4 trillion for the federal government. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andreessen_Horowitz https://www.cbo.g…

With so much money earmarked for the military, how absurd would it be to create a "health force" alongside the Space Force?

I predict this will happen when the US realizes that health of its citizens is a matter of national security. If that doesn’t happen during this pandemic, then I don’t know what can make it see that simple fact except a war happening in the country.

The name might be a bit different though: say, National Health Service.

Re: It’s Time to Build

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post #591

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Small businesses were approved for $350B, most of which has not yet been disbursed, and only about 50% of the needed amount has been approved.

False. It's all gone by now: https://www.geekwire.com/2020/federal-governments-350b-small... I do agree it's not enough though. Take it up with your representative.

We said the same thing. There needs to be at least 50% more funds behind the PPP.

Re: It’s Time to Build

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post #619

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a valid criticism and something that ran through my mind when reading the article. But keep in mind that there's orders of magnitude difference in what they invest vs. the federal government. According to these 2 articles, it could be around THREE orders of magnitude -- ~4 billion in for them in 2014 vs. ~4 trillion for the federal government. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andreessen_Horowitz https://www.cbo.g…

With so much money earmarked for the military, how absurd would it be to create a "health force" alongside the Space Force?

The US spends about 600 billion on the military and about a trillion on Medicare and health.

https://www.nationalpriorities.org/budget-basics/federal-bud...

Re: It’s Time to Build

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Since you are reading why nations fail I would like to recommend a pairing. How democracies die by Daniel Ziblatt and Steven Levitsky. The central thesis here is parties are the gatekeepers of democracies and when they put party before nation they erode the democracy that eventually fails. More often it’s a slow degrade than a sudden spectacular collapse. The erosion paves way for leaders that are more “spectacular”…

>GOP put party win before a nation by agreeing to nominate an unfit individual for office. They failed as gatekeepers. Trump won the primary because he took positions that closely follow the article being discussed here, anti-war, anti-outsourcing (additionally he took an anti-immigration position) while all of the other 18 GOP candidates had the same pro-war, pro-free trade, pro-immigration positions that the party…

Why don’t you think people elected Trump because he was the only GOP candidate?

Re: It’s Time to Build

#648
post #619

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a valid criticism and something that ran through my mind when reading the article. But keep in mind that there's orders of magnitude difference in what they invest vs. the federal government. According to these 2 articles, it could be around THREE orders of magnitude -- ~4 billion in for them in 2014 vs. ~4 trillion for the federal government. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andreessen_Horowitz https://www.cbo.g…

With so much money earmarked for the military, how absurd would it be to create a "health force" alongside the Space Force?

We literally have one; see #6:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniformed_services_of_the_Unit...

But I agree- what if we treated it as seriously as [can't believe this is a real thing] the Space Force.

Re: It’s Time to Build

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post #348

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I respectfully disagree about what it takes to be approved as a health insurance COMPANY (as opposed to a broker). In fact I am quite happy that regulators require you to show that 1) you know what you are doing 2) you have a massive balance sheet to protect your customers if they need it. The point 2 is super important in the context of VC-backed companies. There is simply no way to build a massive insurance company…

I wonder what you think about the necessity of the health insurance industry? Seeing as how apparently it began as a sort of subscription service to keep hospitals afloat when beds were empty... It is a lot to wrap my mind around, but I have the general feeling that insurance drives the prices of health care way up and we would be better if we could all pay out of pocket for most things, but be covered by a true 'ris…

I've never looked for data to back this up, but I had a teacher outline the following theory of healthcare costs.

Insurance companies have out-sized bargaining power and will only pay a fraction of the list-price for a procedure.

Doctor's know this, so prices inflate to the point where the negotiated price is in line with what they'll actually do it for.

Everyone who is not insured or not covered for that procedure ends up paying massively inflated costs.

Re: It’s Time to Build

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post #619

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a valid criticism and something that ran through my mind when reading the article. But keep in mind that there's orders of magnitude difference in what they invest vs. the federal government. According to these 2 articles, it could be around THREE orders of magnitude -- ~4 billion in for them in 2014 vs. ~4 trillion for the federal government. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andreessen_Horowitz https://www.cbo.g…

With so much money earmarked for the military, how absurd would it be to create a "health force" alongside the Space Force?

Not absurd at all. Since a billion years ago the South African (National) Defence Force has always had four equal branches:

- Army

- Navy

- Air Force

- Medical

But the USA is already mostly there: there are eight uniformed services. One is the U.S. Public Health Service Commissioned Corps that employs the surgeon general.

But you will have to stop your military's obsession with earning combat action badges. From what I can tell its creating a class-hierarchy inside the armed services.

That won't help if your aim is to create a serious non-combat uniformed service with the same prestige that mainly does nursing.

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