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It’s Time to Build

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Re: It’s Time to Build

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Somewhat related, but The New Deal basically invested 40% of the GDP into ‘building’ and paying Americans to do it. The US in 2020 just invested roughly 10% of the GDP to prop up some corporations, and more or less called it a day.

I think a New Deal style fund for infrastructure and human capital investment projects would be fantastic. Some ideas... Government will pay your former salary if you attend a Masters or PhD program and are succeeding there. Delay recent bachelors grads entering the workforce by heavily subsidizing Masters degrees and PhDs in STEM. (Only others if we must, personally I think social sciences are currently acting as a…

Aren’t most decent Masters and PhD programs paid already?

My friends in PhD programs are paid a stipend. It’s not an industry level wage if that is what you were meaning, but they certainly don’t pay anything to be there.

Re: It’s Time to Build

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It would help to have a leader who inspires, a leader who brings the opposing side along (knowing that we most of us want the same result, we just disagree on how to get there), a leader who couldn't give a damn about re-election, a leader with a vision of a positive future, and a leader who drives us to our better natures. We haven't had one of those in a while.

Re: It’s Time to Build

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> I expect this essay to be the target of criticism. Here’s a modest proposal to my critics. Instead of attacking my ideas of what to build, conceive your own! What do you think we should build? There’s an excellent chance I’ll agree with you. What we need to build is the capacity to make investments in building backstops against low-prob, high-risk, collective risks. For almost all of those risks, the problem isn't…

Honest, no snark question -- what exactly US government did in last 30 years that should warrant providing more money to it? Is there any guarantee that another trillion dollars will be used more efficiently than blowing up another Middle East country?

Food stamps, medicare, TANF, and welfare improve the daily lives of millions. And this money is accountable to the person who spent it, to the person who voted to spend it, to who raised it.

Re: It’s Time to Build

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> Why aren’t we building Elon Musk’s “alien dreadnoughts” — giant, gleaming, state of the art factories producing every conceivable kind of product, at the highest possible quality and lowest possible cost — all throughout our country? Because we have few of the industrial titans which are required to spearhead that and round up (or possess) the necessary capital. This sort of outcome does not magically self-assemble…

How would that minimum wage replacement work? Wouldn't every minimum wage employer just switch to paying $1/hr or whatever, and let this system pay the rest? That would mean such companies couldn't give their worst a $1/hr raise without paying $12/hr more. I seem to be missing something.

That would be true for the absolute lowest value labor. Only about 1% of the labor force earned the minimum wage in 2019. Maybe that would increase to 3-5% under this scenario, with higher real wage compensation covering more people.

The competition for labor - which exists at all times in some form - will continue to force businesses beyond the floor of the income tax credit line for the extreme majority of labor. A person that now earns the minimum $12/hr via the tax credit system, a business can offer them $12 + their own $3 cost ($15/hr total to the employee), and steal them away for relatively inexpensively versus the old minimum wage costs. The business might have been paying a $10/hr min wage in their state previously, for example; so paying $3/hr for that labor is still a net savings. You could gradually eliminate the tax credit as you step up the income scale (maybe every combined dollar above $12/hr the person earns, one dollar in the credit vanishes; so someone earning $20/hr total, that employee loses $8/hr of the credit, so $16/hr of that has to come from the business; or half that rate of vanishing; you get the general idea). It's entirely plausibly this would massively boost income levels for the bottom half of workers, as businesses would offer over the $12/hr line to lure the best lower skill workers (it would still be net cheaper to the business than the old system, which is why they'd do it). It would also make a lot of small businesses solidly profitable and encourage higher rates of business formation again (most mom & pop businesses operate at very thin margins; would have to implement some new fraud checking and minimum revenue requirements perhaps; have to avoid various fraudulent employment schemes). Also, the credit should apply to lower income waiters also, they can keep tips on top of that (if they yield enough combined income, it would be taxed; a person earning the minimum $12/hr pays zero income taxes, over that we'd have to decide where income taxes begin and how they climb).

We would continue to tax normal corporate income outside of manufacturing (and we could begin by just experimenting by dropping manufacturing taxation to half the normal rate, test the outcomes it generates). The increased personal income taxation pays for the new redistribution model. We would want to reform our personal income tax system further to optimize, maximize it (including treating all income equally for tax purposes).

We could entirely exclude high wage employees from the income tax credit system, so those employees are not subsidized in this (if your engineers are making $125,000 they don't need the $12/hr income tax credit underneath them).

We simultaneously could alter some welfare benefit programs that are no longer as necessary as a larger share of the population is working and earning higher wages (you rebalance the system in other words).

Re: It’s Time to Build

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I'm in the process of reading _Why Nation Fails_. The central thesis is that the rich and poor countries are separated by inclusive vs extractive institutions. The extractive institutions are characterised by elites that attempt to defend their own wealth and status by maintaining the status quo and resisting the creative destruction that may threaten that position. It seems to resonate a bit here, when Marc speaks o…

"Why Nation Fails" is a phenomenal book. I'm sorry, but I have a hard time to think of US institutions as reasonable examples of how the author portraits creative destruction and extractive institutions.

I understand there might be some broken things in your nation's systems. Still, the fact you're able to discuss them here or work towards changing them through legal methods, shows the US is far off on the right track of constitutional rule and pluralism.

Re: It’s Time to Build

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Well Marc, one problem is the world of VC-driven innovation. Building truly revolutionary work takes time and commitment, while the VC ecosystem and entrepreneurial culture actively works against this. - Telling founders to be underpaid and commit their entire finances to the success of their startups forces startups to spend more time finding product-market fit than building what the world needs long-term. - Hiring…

I think you have identified a real problem. There needs to be a vehicle for long term investing in companies. In the UK at least the major vehicle for long-term, even multi-generational, investing is property because of the special protections it has. The richest family in Britain recently transferred £9bn to the next son, tax-free, in this way. It is low risk, and the costs of holding non- devoloped land is low. This leads to all kinds of undesirable effects like land-banking. I feel the cost of holding land needs to go up (land value tax?) to incentivise development. Inheritance tax shields (trusts) need removing. This should get all of this stale capital working and looking for a new home. This could be a longer term VC type fund, perhaps?

Re: It’s Time to Build

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What's the goal here? The American dream? Well, you need to be able to afford a home and children. People can't.

Why not? Because they aren't paid enough for the work they do. The money is being made, but it ends up at the top, and not even corporate tax is being paid with all the tax optimization routes.

So what do people do? They begin startups. Most of the time they're done by people who should even waste their time on it, because they haven't been trained to build and run a company. But guess what? It's the only way to "make it" and the "American dream".

Want to be taken care of properly? Pay RN more.

Want better education for people who can't afford? Pay teachers in community colleges more.

Want more R&D? Pay "smart" people more, instead of forcing them to try and do the startup.

Want affordable housing? Force big companies to have offices outside the big cities. Also, value housepricing at 20% of what they're worth not to destroy mortgages. Tax forgein owned housing. Tax owning houses beyond the first one.

Building is not the problem. Building is easy. You talk about robots... how is that gonna help "the american dream"? It's not.

The problem is financial and ownership disitrbution. Normal people stand no chance against tax routes, against their employers, against the government. They are slaves to all of that.

Re: It’s Time to Build

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Ah yes, the lack of success in our nation is purely the individual’s fault. Your fault, my fault. There are no structural issues, misallocations of capitals, disincentives. You should be working harder on bigger problems! Quit your job at Walmart, and start working on things that matter.

What the fuck Andreessen? Are you so out of touch with reality that you think if the working class just worked a little harder, a little smarter, then we’d have flying cars?

Re: It’s Time to Build

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If we didn't have unlimited travel across borders this epidemic would have never happened.

Absolutely nothing would need to be built to achieve this.

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