Scuttlebot: Peer-to-peer database, identity provider, and messaging system

Post by zozbot234 » Sat, Apr 18, 2020, 10:06 PM UTC

alephnan wrote: post #25

TimJRobinson wrote: post #20

Huge fan of Scuttlebutt and think it could (should) be the future of the social internet. I recently quit my job to write about and work on decentralized tech full time with scuttlebutt being my primary focus. I've written about why I think it's so important here: https://adecentralizedworld.com/2020/03/what-is-scuttlebutt/

> Decentralized social networks have been tried before, the two most well known are Diaspora and Mastadon. With these services there [is still moderation]... Scuttlebutt is how I believe the social web should function in the future. Even the Hackernews community which lean towards decentralization more so than the general public would still argue there is value in moderation.

Post by zozbot234 » Sat, Apr 18, 2020, 10:11 PM UTC

jekrb wrote: post #7

z0mbie42 wrote: post #3

I recently discovered SSB and was really intrigued. I would love to hear an experience report from actual users like what is working great, and what is bad.

It's been a while, but I used to be an active SSB user. I hosted SSB pubs and used to post on patchwork semi-regularly. I thought it worked pretty well as a social network. I discovered new and interesting ideas from folks that I don't see much on mainstream social media. I haven't followed the space much recently, and I'm curious about how it has evolved over the last year or so. My favorite memories on SSB: Someone…

Post by rapnie » Sat, Apr 18, 2020, 10:18 PM UTC

TimJRobinson wrote: post #20

Huge fan of Scuttlebutt and think it could (should) be the future of the social internet. I recently quit my job to write about and work on decentralized tech full time with scuttlebutt being my primary focus. I've written about why I think it's so important here: https://adecentralizedworld.com/2020/03/what-is-scuttlebutt/

Post by Animats » Sat, Apr 18, 2020, 10:31 PM UTC

alephnan wrote: post #25

TimJRobinson wrote: post #20

Huge fan of Scuttlebutt and think it could (should) be the future of the social internet. I recently quit my job to write about and work on decentralized tech full time with scuttlebutt being my primary focus. I've written about why I think it's so important here: https://adecentralizedworld.com/2020/03/what-is-scuttlebutt/

> Decentralized social networks have been tried before, the two most well known are Diaspora and Mastadon. With these services there [is still moderation]... Scuttlebutt is how I believe the social web should function in the future. Even the Hackernews community which lean towards decentralization more so than the general public would still argue there is value in moderation.

Post by VWWHFSfQ » Sat, Apr 18, 2020, 10:56 PM UTC

sneak wrote: post #43

Vendan wrote: post #31

Scuttlebutt is a neat concept, burdened by a bad protocol. Signing a message involves serializing a json object, signing it, adding the signature as a field on that json object, and then serializing it again. To verify, you deserialize the message into an object, remove the signature field, and then reserialize it, and verify the signature against that new serialization. This means that all the clients have to have a…

When I was faced with this (signing a structure), I serialized the json into base64, then put that base64 string as a value (along with the MAC) into a new json document. It of course increases deserialization overhead (json, verify, unbase64, inner json) but sidesteps this issue. I thought about sorting keys and other things like that, and the dozen edge cases and potential malleability issues dissuaded me for the c…