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Re: GitHub is now free for teams
#652Is it 4$/user on top of the minimum 20$ (which includes 5 users) ? Because my billing still says 20$/month and I have less than 5 users.
You have to go in and reduce your seat count on the billing page
Re: GitHub is now free for teams
#653This is really great news. I've been happy paying for GitHub for years and it was already great value but this makes it even better.
Re: GitHub is now free for teams
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This is the second time I've seen a comment from you complaining about Atom development when an unrelated Github article is posted. What's the purpose of these posts? Do you expect Github to start funding active development of Atom again? If not, what's the goal of the complaints? I.e. why do you keep bringing this up if you know this is water under the bridge? I'm a github user, though I wouldn't call myself a fan e…
Um... I think you might have me confused with someone else? I looked through my own post history and it looks like I did reply in a thread about this topic a while ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22606843 (same thread that I linked above) I can only speak for myself as to why I posted here. And I really just want an answer for the question I posted (I'm not naive enough to believe a post like this has any c…
I did confuse you with someone else. lewisl9029 opened this question last time, you were further down thread, apologies.
Mostly I'm curious, just like you. You're curious "what happened to Atom development", I'm curious why people bring this question up over and over on unrelated GH threads when they already seem to know the answer–to wit: active feature development on Atom by Github/MSFT has stopped and will not resume.
I don't see the point of derailing threads/starting editor flame wars over this question, but I am frequently missing some crucial point. So I ask: What am I missing? What's the point of these "what about atom!!" questions when you know the answer already?
Re: GitHub is now free for teams
#655Earlier quoted context omitted.
Um... I think you might have me confused with someone else? I looked through my own post history and it looks like I did reply in a thread about this topic a while ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22606843 (same thread that I linked above) I can only speak for myself as to why I posted here. And I really just want an answer for the question I posted (I'm not naive enough to believe a post like this has any c…
I did confuse you with someone else. lewisl9029 opened this question last time, you were further down thread, apologies. Mostly I'm curious, just like you. You're curious "what happened to Atom development", I'm curious why people bring this question up over and over on unrelated GH threads when they already seem to know the answer–to wit: active feature development on Atom by Github/MSFT has stopped and will not res…
I think you're taking that specific opening question a bit too literally (though to be fair, I'm also at fault for not being as direct as I could have been with my point). It's fairly clear from the rest of my post and from the linked posts that I'm fully aware that Github/MSFT-funded Atom development has mostly grounded to a halt.
These are the actual questions I'm trying to get at:
What made Github/MSFT stop funding Atom development when their CEO went on record to say they won't?
And why haven't they announced that was the case officially?
If the very same CEO then goes on an AMA on Hacker News, surely it's fair game hold him accountable to previous public statements and ask him to clear the air. If this was just some random scrub posting their thoughts on the acquisition I definitely wouldn't have wasted my time to bring this up.
Re: GitHub is now free for teams
#656Is it 4$/user on top of the minimum 20$ (which includes 5 users) ? Because my billing still says 20$/month and I have less than 5 users.
You have to go in and reduce your seat count on the billing page
Thanks, there is indeed a "Remove Seats" option now (there used to be only "Downgrade to Free"), exactly what I was looking for.
Re: GitHub is now free for teams
#657Earlier quoted context omitted.
I did confuse you with someone else. lewisl9029 opened this question last time, you were further down thread, apologies. Mostly I'm curious, just like you. You're curious "what happened to Atom development", I'm curious why people bring this question up over and over on unrelated GH threads when they already seem to know the answer–to wit: active feature development on Atom by Github/MSFT has stopped and will not res…
I think you're taking that specific opening question a bit too literally (though to be fair, I'm also at fault for not being as direct as I could have been with my point). It's fairly clear from the rest of my post and from the linked posts that I'm fully aware that Github/MSFT-funded Atom development has mostly grounded to a halt. These are the actual questions I'm trying to get at: What made Github/MSFT stop fundin…
Makes sense that you'd like some sort of apology or mea culpa from the CEO, who has not been completely forthright. I know you don't want answers from me specifically, but here's my thoughts:
> What made Github/MSFT stop funding Atom development when their CEO went on record to say they won't?
Because circumstances changed and it made no sense to continue to do this. Atom shrank as VSCode grew by leaps and bounds, there's no clear business case for continuing to develop a withering product.
> And why haven't they announced that was the case officially?
Why would they? Why go out of their way to print upsetting news (to some) in a 40pt headline, when the writing is already on the wall for anyone who cares to read it? i.e. what's the benefit to the company of doing this?
I think the better question for the Github CEO was "why did you ever promise to continue supporting Atom? You either knew this was not possible, or were making a promise you could not keep, either one is bad." And the answer to that is probably "to avoid creating a furor around cutting Atom off at the same time as the acquisition was announced." But yeah hearing him say that would be useful.
Re: GitHub is now free for teams
#658Earlier quoted context omitted.
While Amazon tried to go into the private hosting and ci/cd market, they are not a dev tool company. Microsoft was born as one. When Amazon or Google would buy GitLab they would meaningless integrate it, reduce staff by half and then ruin it over time. Maybe when Microsoft would have opened up some years earlier, Codeplex would not share the fate of Google Cloud.
The marketing team from Microsoft here on HN is amazing. The work you all have been putting in for the last year+ is amazing. It all started with VS Code and has since fanned out into a massive influence. I'd be super curious to see the metrics on ROI with the HN presence.
It breaks the site guidelines to post accusations of astroturfing like this. The overwhelming majority of the time, there isn't the slightest evidence for these. Somebody liking something that you dislike does not count as evidence.
I've studied the question closely on HN and looked at data for years. There have been occasional cases where we've banned accounts for the kind of thing you're complaining about, but we have to go by evidence. Well over 99.9% of the time, users are just making shit up. Please don't trash talk like that here.
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Please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules from now on. If you're genuinely worried about astroturfing, you're welcome to email links to hn@ycombinator.com and we'll look into it.
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#659Earlier quoted context omitted.
The marketing team from Microsoft here on HN is amazing. The work you all have been putting in for the last year+ is amazing. It all started with VS Code and has since fanned out into a massive influence. I'd be super curious to see the metrics on ROI with the HN presence.
It breaks the site guidelines to post accusations of astroturfing like this. The overwhelming majority of the time, there isn't the slightest evidence for these. Somebody liking something that you dislike does not count as evidence. I've studied the question closely on HN and looked at data for years. There have been occasional cases where we've banned accounts for the kind of thing you're complaining about, but we h…
Hi Dan, my apologies for that. I wasn't trying to specifically single out that account. I've seen a strong push for MS products since VS Code, and it is impossible to be an accident. My post was made out of curiosity as opposed to malice. It was not intended as a passive-aggressive accusation, but I understand the rule there. I appreciate the guidance.
Re: GitHub is now free for teams
#660Earlier quoted context omitted.
It breaks the site guidelines to post accusations of astroturfing like this. The overwhelming majority of the time, there isn't the slightest evidence for these. Somebody liking something that you dislike does not count as evidence. I've studied the question closely on HN and looked at data for years. There have been occasional cases where we've banned accounts for the kind of thing you're complaining about, but we h…
Hi Dan, my apologies for that. I wasn't trying to specifically single out that account. I've seen a strong push for MS products since VS Code, and it is impossible to be an accident. My post was made out of curiosity as opposed to malice. It was not intended as a passive-aggressive accusation, but I understand the rule there. I appreciate the guidance.
Appreciated!
I'd be super careful about thoughts like this:
> and it is impossible to be an accident
Internet users are overwhelmingly, like a million times too likely to generate sinister explanations for phenomena like this, which are typically just artifacts of a large population size plus randomness. There's something in how human nature meets the internet which makes us vulnerable to this bias. Probably it's just that we're not wired to interact with very large populations of people. Cognitive bias plus randomness equals narrative.
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