Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

TablePlus – Modern, Native Tool for Database Management

tableplus.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

41–50 of 199 posts

Re: TablePlus – Modern, Native Tool for Database Management

#41

Post by thibaut_barrere »

HHad3 wrote: post #2

The application looks and feels nice, but the per-device pricing/licensing model seems severely outdated to me. I will not make a purchase unless named licenses, which enable me to use the application on all devices and operating systems I use (with reasonable limits if DRM is needed for some reason), are available.

I do not find that model outdated at all. Actually a good bunch of apps I use have that model (e.g. Alfred App, Ableton Live...).

Also, TablePlus seems to be selling well (at least from what I see around me), so I am not personally of the opinion that they should change their model!

Re: TablePlus – Modern, Native Tool for Database Management

#44

Post by satyrnein »

jolmg wrote: post #24
Kudos wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't condone pirating software, but this is the kind of licensing that makes me understand it to a degree.

Right, it's not like their cost of production is proportional to the number of computers the software is used in. It's like trying to buy a vacuum cleaner and being charged per room you plan to use it in.

It's not proportional to number of users, either. Zero marginal costs mean pricing is always at least a little arbitrary.

Re: TablePlus – Modern, Native Tool for Database Management

#45

Post by nerdbaggy »

HHad3 wrote: post #2

The application looks and feels nice, but the per-device pricing/licensing model seems severely outdated to me. I will not make a purchase unless named licenses, which enable me to use the application on all devices and operating systems I use (with reasonable limits if DRM is needed for some reason), are available.

What is your opinion on a license that is for unlimited computers but can only be used by 1 computer at a time?

Re: TablePlus – Modern, Native Tool for Database Management

#46

Post by ramraj07 »

HHad3 wrote: post #2

The application looks and feels nice, but the per-device pricing/licensing model seems severely outdated to me. I will not make a purchase unless named licenses, which enable me to use the application on all devices and operating systems I use (with reasonable limits if DRM is needed for some reason), are available.

I moved my entire team to this program because of how simple (and reasonably hard to screw up) it is. It's also incidentally one of the cheapest non-buggy tools you can use to access redshift. Even if you buy multiple licenses it's cheaper than navicat et al.

Also to note that their free version is still _very_ usable, I survived on that itself for many months spending hours in the tool.

Re: TablePlus – Modern, Native Tool for Database Management

#47

Post by wenc »

oefrha wrote: post #35
wenc wrote: post #28

I work with SQL Server. I really like general multi-db GUI tools like this, but also wonder if one is giving up a lot of power. SQL Server's free native tool is SSMS (SQL Server Management Studio), which is one of the most powerful SQL clients I've ever used. (despite my carryover reservations with MS products from the 1980s-90s, SQL Server is indisputably an innovative and solid piece of technology -- MS did somethi…

Edit: read the parent wrong, but leaving my comment here so it doesn’t look like backtracking some offensive content. > wonder if one is giving up a lot of power. That’s an irrational concern. GUI tools also come with SQL consoles where you can do anything that’s possible in the CLI. With the added benefit of results being presented in a nicer way.

> That’s an irrational concern.

Is it though?

So for SQL Server, you can't really see the live query plan (real-time plan + statistics while the query is running) without the GUI. You cannot see the Activity Monitor without the GUI. There are elements that cannot be accessed via pure SQL. 3rd party GUIs generally don't support these features.

Re: TablePlus – Modern, Native Tool for Database Management

#50

Post by yashap »

oefrha wrote: post #35
wenc wrote: post #28

I work with SQL Server. I really like general multi-db GUI tools like this, but also wonder if one is giving up a lot of power. SQL Server's free native tool is SSMS (SQL Server Management Studio), which is one of the most powerful SQL clients I've ever used. (despite my carryover reservations with MS products from the 1980s-90s, SQL Server is indisputably an innovative and solid piece of technology -- MS did somethi…

Edit: read the parent wrong, but leaving my comment here so it doesn’t look like backtracking some offensive content. > wonder if one is giving up a lot of power. That’s an irrational concern. GUI tools also come with SQL consoles where you can do anything that’s possible in the CLI. With the added benefit of results being presented in a nicer way.

I think you’ve missed wenc’s point - they aren’t arguing for a CLI, they’re arguing for a UI specialized to a single RDBMS, vs one trying to convert many RDBMSs.
Post reply on HN