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The irony of Apple homepage and Safari WebP support

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Re: The irony of Apple homepage and Safari WebP support

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Post by Flimm »

jws wrote: post #19

That is to save 146KB on one image an 99KB on another, to save 2 seconds you'd have to using a 1mbps connection. The first random internet article I pulled for real world cellular speeds suggests even unwired, people are getting 30mbps so that changes the article to: Apple could load 66ms faster by adopting WebP … but these are cached resources, so maybe… Apple could perform the initial load 66ms faster by adopting W…

I think there are more images than just the first two shown in the cropped screenshot.

Re: The irony of Apple homepage and Safari WebP support

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Post by robterrell »

mojuba wrote: post #3

At the expense of quality, at least it was Apple's argument against supporting webp. And no, they didn't ignore it, it was included in one of the previous betas of macOS and iOS and removed later. Don't remember which.

https://www.cnet.com/news/apple-ios-macos-tests-googles-webp...

Re: The irony of Apple homepage and Safari WebP support

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Post by Flimm »

isoprophlex wrote: post #4

Firstly, i don't get what apple has to gain by not supporting webp... Nevertheless: The screenshot puzzles me, it shows two assets, and states that compressing these by an extra ~ 250 kb would save 2 seconds. Maybe on very slow connections? Also > Lack of proper support for [...] web notifications on mobile I can do without these i guess

The screenshot is cropped, there are more than just two assets that would benefit from being in WebP.

Re: The irony of Apple homepage and Safari WebP support

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Post by xrisk »

jws wrote: post #19

That is to save 146KB on one image an 99KB on another, to save 2 seconds you'd have to using a 1mbps connection. The first random internet article I pulled for real world cellular speeds suggests even unwired, people are getting 30mbps so that changes the article to: Apple could load 66ms faster by adopting WebP … but these are cached resources, so maybe… Apple could perform the initial load 66ms faster by adopting W…

1) “real world” cellular speeds at 30mbps? That sounds ludicrous to me. Maybe in America, definitely not in many countries across the world.

2) I don’t know a lot of people who are repeat visitors to apple.com. Mentioning the fact that the time is initial load time would be redundant.

Re: The irony of Apple homepage and Safari WebP support

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Post by tarkin2 »

gardaani wrote: post #9

I'm happy that Apple hasn't adopted WebP. JPEG XL and AVIF are better formats. Even Google is considering creating WebP2. WebP is already an outdated format (no HDR support), which should just die.

Disagree.

There's various web standards that export to webp: web recording, video conferencing etc. [1]

Apple have effectively veto'd a web standard, pushing developers and users into their ecosystem yet again.

[1] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/MediaRecord...

Re: The irony of Apple homepage and Safari WebP support

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Post by st3fan »

aeonflux wrote: post #39

Could anyone one please tell me what is the purpose of the Web Notifications, other than invasive marketing.

Redash sends you a web notification when a long running query has finished. Clicking on the notification opens Firefox to the right tab where you can see the results.

Just one example of legit use not for ads.

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