U.S. judge blocks Twitter's bid to reveal government surveillance requests
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Re: U.S. judge blocks Twitter's bid to reveal government surveillance requests
#2I’m not clear on whether the judge ruled in the abstract, or if they know the details of who was being surveilled and why. I just about trust a judge to act as a third party check on power but only if they get total transparency in lieu of the public being able to see.
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#4Can we just ponder for a moment that we are being asked to believe that anything Twitter does or does not do could pose an existential threat to the United States?
“National security” is a sham now and has been a sham every other time it has ever been used as a blanket override for human rights. Human rights to free expression are more important than any nation.
This is just government spies trying to cover their ass whilst they continue breaking the law. They've conveniently mixed it in with "but terrorism!" to ensure that they get to continue breaking the law.
Re: U.S. judge blocks Twitter's bid to reveal government surveillance requests
#5Can we just ponder for a moment that we are being asked to believe that anything Twitter does or does not do could pose an existential threat to the United States? “National security” is a sham now and has been a sham every other time it has ever been used as a blanket override for human rights. Human rights to free expression are more important than any nation. This is just government spies trying to cover their ass…
What's more disturbing and I simply can't get my head around is that Americans feel that they can trust big corporations more than their own government.
I don't trust US corporations at all and I thought that there was some kind of corporate conspiracy to discredit the US government to allow corporations to gain more power...
Now I'm thinking that the situation in the US is even worse than that; not only are corporations trying to discredit the government, but the government is working hard to discredit itself as well.
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#6Obligatory: And this is a branch of the same government that HN users want to “regulate tech”. Why would anyone want to give government more power?
Re: U.S. judge blocks Twitter's bid to reveal government surveillance requests
#7Obligatory: And this is a branch of the same government that HN users want to “regulate tech”. Why would anyone want to give government more power?
Because normally a government does smart thing for its people. It hasn't done that in some time in the US.
Re: U.S. judge blocks Twitter's bid to reveal government surveillance requests
#8We learn from Snowden leaks that Twitter was the only major platform that refused to participate voluntarily with PRISM surveillance. Twitter only complied with legitimate FISA requests they were not able to refuse.
Microsoft,Yahoo, Google, AOL, Skype and Apple all did more than legally required.
Re: U.S. judge blocks Twitter's bid to reveal government surveillance requests
#9Obligatory: And this is a branch of the same government that HN users want to “regulate tech”. Why would anyone want to give government more power?
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Re: U.S. judge blocks Twitter's bid to reveal government surveillance requests
#10Can we just ponder for a moment that we are being asked to believe that anything Twitter does or does not do could pose an existential threat to the United States? “National security” is a sham now and has been a sham every other time it has ever been used as a blanket override for human rights. Human rights to free expression are more important than any nation. This is just government spies trying to cover their ass…
What's more disturbing and I simply can't get my head around is that Americans feel that they can trust big corporations more than their own government. I don't trust US corporations at all and I thought that there was some kind of corporate conspiracy to discredit the US government to allow corporations to gain more power... Now I'm thinking that the situation in the US is even worse than that; not only are corporat…
> What's more disturbing and I simply can't get my head around is that Americans feel that they can trust big corporations more than their own government.
Government and corporations are merging to become the same thing. I just assume any data I give to a corporation or government is public since they share your data anyway.