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Re: X410 – X Server for Windows 10

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> I do believe there is a spirit of open source. The only things defining open source and free software are the copyright hacks that are licenses such as GPL, MIT, BSD, etc. If someone wants their code to not be used a certain way, they can adapt their license it to avoid it.

With all due respect I find this view shallow and very incomplete. Open source is not a set of licenses, it’s people, companies, code, etc. The only reason to ever talk about open source in terms of just what the licenses say alone is if you are dealing with legal issues. The licenses themselves are nothing more than a tool used to facilitate open source within the copyright system. Again... legal obligations and mor…

>ZFS on Linux is a perfect example of where GPL hinders a perfectly in-spirit action that would mostly be to everyone’s benefit.

Sorry, I can see where the frustration comes from here, but from an outsider's view the CDDL is just as much to blame. It takes two for there to be a license incompatibility. If there is some piece of information missing here then let us know, although in my experience the lawyers don't like to make this sort of thing public.

>I tend to use a BSD license, and I don’t personally care what happens to my code. Still, that doesn’t mean that I think there aren’t ways to abuse that where someone benefits and open source loses.

I also use non-copyleft licenses a lot, but accepting that other parties are going to profit and not give anything back has always been a part of that. It's not a total loss -- it gives you an in to lobby them hard for donations, support payments, consulting fees, or some other kind of contribution.

Re: X410 – X Server for Windows 10

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For a somewhat alternative if you want to run both Linux and Windows, you can run Linux natively and then run Windows in a VM with GPU passthrough. Then you can use Looking Glass which sends the Windows pixels to a Linux window with native performance. For the Linux machine, you can run it as a host or use something like Proxmox as a hypervisor if you need more VMs or containers. I use this setup to run Windows, macO…

This sounds fantastic. Is there a more comprehensive guide somewhere on how to set this up?

Re: X410 – X Server for Windows 10

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For a somewhat alternative if you want to run both Linux and Windows, you can run Linux natively and then run Windows in a VM with GPU passthrough. Then you can use Looking Glass which sends the Windows pixels to a Linux window with native performance. For the Linux machine, you can run it as a host or use something like Proxmox as a hypervisor if you need more VMs or containers. I use this setup to run Windows, macO…

This sounds fantastic. Is there a more comprehensive guide somewhere on how to set this up?

https://looking-glass.hostfission.com/wiki/Installation

Also check out their GitHub and quickstart, they have more details. The main thing is you have to run it both on Linux and Windows.

Re: X410 – X Server for Windows 10

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This sounds fantastic. Is there a more comprehensive guide somewhere on how to set this up?

https://looking-glass.hostfission.com/wiki/Installation Also check out their GitHub and quickstart, they have more details. The main thing is you have to run it both on Linux and Windows.

Does GPU pass through mean that gaming in a Windows Guest is still an good option?

Re: X410 – X Server for Windows 10

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For a somewhat alternative if you want to run both Linux and Windows, you can run Linux natively and then run Windows in a VM with GPU passthrough. Then you can use Looking Glass which sends the Windows pixels to a Linux window with native performance. For the Linux machine, you can run it as a host or use something like Proxmox as a hypervisor if you need more VMs or containers. I use this setup to run Windows, macO…

How did you get Looking Glass to work with macOS? I don't think it's supported as host OS.

It only works with a Linux host and Windows guest. I posted this on HN as well, and I wrote that there have been rumors that Apple might implement something similar due to development happening with virtIO drivers in macOS, so perhaps you may not have to wait long for a macOS host running Windows.

I ran the 3 OS using a Proxmox (Linux) host and three guest VMs.

Re: X410 – X Server for Windows 10

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://looking-glass.hostfission.com/wiki/Installation Also check out their GitHub and quickstart, they have more details. The main thing is you have to run it both on Linux and Windows.

Does GPU pass through mean that gaming in a Windows Guest is still an good option?

I would estimate I get 92-95% the performance of bare metal.

Re: X410 – X Server for Windows 10

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For a somewhat alternative if you want to run both Linux and Windows, you can run Linux natively and then run Windows in a VM with GPU passthrough. Then you can use Looking Glass which sends the Windows pixels to a Linux window with native performance. For the Linux machine, you can run it as a host or use something like Proxmox as a hypervisor if you need more VMs or containers. I use this setup to run Windows, macO…

Is there any difference in performance when compared to a dedicated second display?

Re: X410 – X Server for Windows 10

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For a somewhat alternative if you want to run both Linux and Windows, you can run Linux natively and then run Windows in a VM with GPU passthrough. Then you can use Looking Glass which sends the Windows pixels to a Linux window with native performance. For the Linux machine, you can run it as a host or use something like Proxmox as a hypervisor if you need more VMs or containers. I use this setup to run Windows, macO…

This sounds really fantastic. Can you explain a bit more about the hardware requirements? If I have a decent notebook with an Intel-integrated GPU, how can I both passthrought the GPU to the VM and use it for rendering the GUI on the host?

Re: X410 – X Server for Windows 10

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For a somewhat alternative if you want to run both Linux and Windows, you can run Linux natively and then run Windows in a VM with GPU passthrough. Then you can use Looking Glass which sends the Windows pixels to a Linux window with native performance. For the Linux machine, you can run it as a host or use something like Proxmox as a hypervisor if you need more VMs or containers. I use this setup to run Windows, macO…

This sounds really fantastic. Can you explain a bit more about the hardware requirements? If I have a decent notebook with an Intel-integrated GPU, how can I both passthrought the GPU to the VM and use it for rendering the GUI on the host?

I think you will need at least 2 GPUs (one for the host and one for the VM). Maybe get an additional eGPU.

Re: X410 – X Server for Windows 10

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Does anyone want to share how they use the WSL2 & X-Server combination? In my case, I'm mostly happy with the VSCode WSL2 integration. I keep all my projects on the linux fs and it is fast to work with. The only thing which annoys me is the window management in Windows. Too much Mouse movement and random ALT-TAB-ing. I've never got i3 to work with a Windows x server on multiple displays with high dpi. X401 also only…

As for Windows native window management, FancyZones is better than nothing. You can overlay zones, I have split each monitor in half with two zones each, then overlayed a bunch of smaller zones for stuff like terminal windows, etc. https://github.com/microsoft/PowerToys/tree/master/src/modul...

FancyZones is great! Already a huge enhancement to the normal windows snapping.

However, it only solves the window placing problem, not the window navigation problem. I would love to navigate with something like SUPER + LEFT/RIGHT, similar to i3. Currently the only possible way is to (CTRL)+ALT+TAB, which completely lacks window layout context and changes order depending on recent uses.

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