That if you're under 54 corona virus isn't any more deadly than the flu?
Even if that was true, flu is still a horrible disease that does kill younger people.
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#22That if you're under 54 corona virus isn't any more deadly than the flu?
Unfortunately, the answer seems "no" so far. Based on for example [1], the infection fatality ratio appears to be 10 times worse than the seasonal flu for people aged 30-39. Also, hospitalisation rate is higher (e.g. in age group 30-39, the study estimates that 3.4% of the infected people were hospitalised), which is higher (even for younger people) than the hospitalisation rate of the flu. [1] https://www.thelancet.…
Without disputing that (and thx for link), it's worth noting that the "flu" has been killing a large number of people year in and year out for as long as we can remember.
The long-term death rate of COVID-19 remains to be seen. The final verdict on how bad it was will depend on whether or not lengthy immunity is attained (including to mutations).
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#24Here in suffering Sweden 80% of covid patients in intensive care survive.
I read that 80% of NY ICU patients on ventilation dies.
Are we perhaps using less mechanical breathing devices here i Sweden?
Edit: this didn’t come out right... couldn’t find total icu death rate but have read stories about high mortality in NY.
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#25Here in suffering Sweden 80% of covid patients in intensive care survive. I read that 80% of NY ICU patients on ventilation dies. Are we perhaps using less mechanical breathing devices here i Sweden? Edit: this didn’t come out right... couldn’t find total icu death rate but have read stories about high mortality in NY.
In ICU and on ventilation are not the same thing.
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#27> “You put a tube into somebody,” Dr. Levitan said, “and the amount of work required not to kill that person goes up by a factor of 100,” creating a cascade that slows down laboratory results, X-rays and other care. I'd hope this could be a generally applicable lesson after the pandemic. In less overwhelming times, the medical best practice is once someone is in hospital, prescribe the statistically best treatment ev…
”I'd hope this could be a generally applicable lesson after the pandemic.”
It may be news to (some) doctors, but that is not a lesson this pandemic taught us. In cost-utility analysis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cost–utility_analysis), different interventions are compared against each other and against the “do nothing” approach.
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#28Here in suffering Sweden 80% of covid patients in intensive care survive. I read that 80% of NY ICU patients on ventilation dies. Are we perhaps using less mechanical breathing devices here i Sweden? Edit: this didn’t come out right... couldn’t find total icu death rate but have read stories about high mortality in NY.
Obviously, not everyone in ICU is on ventilator. This is true in both countries.
If there was dishonest statistical comparison, this is the one.
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A paywall is always tolerated per the site rules if there is a workaround. This paywall has a workaround, which already had been posted when the complaint was made. Complaining about paywalls on the other hand is strictly off-topic.
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#30Here in suffering Sweden 80% of covid patients in intensive care survive. I read that 80% of NY ICU patients on ventilation dies. Are we perhaps using less mechanical breathing devices here i Sweden? Edit: this didn’t come out right... couldn’t find total icu death rate but have read stories about high mortality in NY.
In ICU and on ventilation are not the same thing.
Exactly I have been in an ICU and I was on those annoying nasal oxygen and not itubated