Assuming we had millions of 3D-scans of different kinds of animals and their full DNA sequence. Wouldn't it be interesting to try to use generative ML methods to generate a dinosaur DNA based on a 3D model?
Possible dinosaur DNA has been found
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#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
There was a paper not long ago saying that the DNA half life is about 500k years or so and that most of the DNA would be degraded. The issue I had with this is why can't we reassemble chunks of DNA like we can with a puzzle. I'm certain specialized algorithms exist within DNA analysis for this reason. This isn't my field and there are already algorithms that exist on the top of my head that could solve this issue. Th…
What does half life of 500,000 years mean? Does that mean any given gene will, on average, split every 500,000 years? Or become unusable in 500,000 years? 65 million years would mean 130 halvings. Basically nothing left, then. ...but this may depend on environmental conditions. this must depend on average environmental temperature, right? Might dinosaur specimens in Antarctic or Arctic regions have experienced signif…
You raise a very good question. Unlike C14 dating, where the halflife is independent of environmental conditions, DNA is a chemical molecule, whose decomposition is a chemical reaction, dependent on exposure to time, temperature, pressure, light, and chemistry of the environment.
I was hoping the article would explain why the conditions would be so favorable to make it possible.
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#103Assuming we had millions of 3D-scans of different kinds of animals and their full DNA sequence. Wouldn't it be interesting to try to use generative ML methods to generate a dinosaur DNA based on a 3D model?
seems oddly familiar. sure let's do it
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#104> Using sophisticated techniques, they extract the preserved blood and bingo! Dino DNA!
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#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
Homology studies. A DNA strand 17 bp long is pretty distinct. If a strand that long or longer was found, we would gain a lot of information about the evolutionary history of dinosaurs that we could never get from fossils. However, the article isn't clear about what they found. It says DNA, then it says there may not be a recoverable sequence. In that case nucleic acids would be a better term than DNA. Without more in…
There was a paper not long ago saying that the DNA half life is about 500k years or so and that most of the DNA would be degraded. The issue I had with this is why can't we reassemble chunks of DNA like we can with a puzzle. I'm certain specialized algorithms exist within DNA analysis for this reason. This isn't my field and there are already algorithms that exist on the top of my head that could solve this issue. Th…
The reason you can’t reassemble is because the puzzle is cut up so much it’s just individual bases. All of the sequence information is lost.
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#106Assuming we had millions of 3D-scans of different kinds of animals and their full DNA sequence. Wouldn't it be interesting to try to use generative ML methods to generate a dinosaur DNA based on a 3D model?
seems oddly familiar. sure let's do it
Are you referring to a movie? Which one?
Or something like this? https://arxiv.org/abs/1712.06148
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#107Assuming we had millions of 3D-scans of different kinds of animals and their full DNA sequence. Wouldn't it be interesting to try to use generative ML methods to generate a dinosaur DNA based on a 3D model?
Fun idea, but I think you're underestimating the total systemic information density between DNA and final body.
But I'm sure you can start there and find some interesting tangent that can very well turn out to be worth pursuing further.
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#108Assuming we had millions of 3D-scans of different kinds of animals and their full DNA sequence. Wouldn't it be interesting to try to use generative ML methods to generate a dinosaur DNA based on a 3D model?
There’s just no way this would work, the DNA codes organs, proteins and all of the complex molecules and molecular interactions, there’s no way a generative model is going to glean all that from 3D scans.
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#109Assuming we had millions of 3D-scans of different kinds of animals and their full DNA sequence. Wouldn't it be interesting to try to use generative ML methods to generate a dinosaur DNA based on a 3D model?
I suppose everything looks like a nail when you've got a few GPUs.
Besides, the sequence alone is not the full state. You have to also consider expression and regulation and all that; epigenetics.
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#110Yeah, but scientists are so preoccupied with whether or not they could make dinosaurs without stopping to think if they should.