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Re: Wekan: Open-source, trello-like kanban

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Post by aogaili »

lioeters wrote: post #57
aogaili wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So what is your go-to nodejs framework? and which NoSQL database do you use?

Not the parent commenter, but.. Having only a superficial knowledge of Meteor, I prefer a more modular approach: - React/Preact with context or hooks instead of Redux - Micro for server - https://github.com/zeit/micro - Postgres with Knex for data persistence - https://knexjs.org/ Add authentication, WebSockets, etc., and it starts to look like an ad-hoc framework - except that all layers are generic and replaceable…

Thanks, but the issue with the modular, ad-hoc approach is that you need to do a lot of integration and leg work before you get to the domain problem in hand and you'll need to maintain those integrations going forward.

Re: Wekan: Open-source, trello-like kanban

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Post by lioeters »

aogaili wrote: post #61
lioeters wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not the parent commenter, but.. Having only a superficial knowledge of Meteor, I prefer a more modular approach: - React/Preact with context or hooks instead of Redux - Micro for server - https://github.com/zeit/micro - Postgres with Knex for data persistence - https://knexjs.org/ Add authentication, WebSockets, etc., and it starts to look like an ad-hoc framework - except that all layers are generic and replaceable…

Thanks, but the issue with the modular, ad-hoc approach is that you need to do a lot of integration and leg work before you get to the domain problem in hand and you'll need to maintain those integrations going forward.

I agree, and that might be the most valuable thing about frameworks like Meteor. It provides a curated developer experience, where most of these common features and integrations are solved.

They tend to have far superior documentation than any ad-hoc approach, making it more suitable for teams. And a whole community that continues to debug, improve, and maintain it.

Well, I'm with you in the search for such a framework!

Re: Wekan: Open-source, trello-like kanban

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Post by stereolambda »

To add to the other alternatives: remember that there's Excel, i.e. spreadsheet software. It's my current method for organizing and monitoring my solo work. Some of the useful features:

- Handling dates, intervals, boolean values.

- Formatting, and conditional formatting. Colors, fonts etc. without the non-utilitarian, "sleek" burden of modern web design.

- Collecting reporting information with SUM(), IF(), COUNTIFS() and friends.

The main benefit is that it's very flexible with only very minimal programming. I can reserve my coding time and stamina for the tasks that absolutely need it.

Re: Wekan: Open-source, trello-like kanban

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Post by SparkyMcUnicorn »

lioeters wrote: post #62
aogaili wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks, but the issue with the modular, ad-hoc approach is that you need to do a lot of integration and leg work before you get to the domain problem in hand and you'll need to maintain those integrations going forward.

I agree, and that might be the most valuable thing about frameworks like Meteor. It provides a curated developer experience, where most of these common features and integrations are solved. They tend to have far superior documentation than any ad-hoc approach, making it more suitable for teams. And a whole community that continues to debug, improve, and maintain it. Well, I'm with you in the search for such a framewo…

FeathersJS + Nuxt/Next (or any front end you want) has been a good combo for me.

Meteor always had a blocking issue for me every time I'd try to use it.

Re: Wekan: Open-source, trello-like kanban

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Post by aogaili »

SparkyMcUnicorn wrote: post #65
lioeters wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree, and that might be the most valuable thing about frameworks like Meteor. It provides a curated developer experience, where most of these common features and integrations are solved. They tend to have far superior documentation than any ad-hoc approach, making it more suitable for teams. And a whole community that continues to debug, improve, and maintain it. Well, I'm with you in the search for such a framewo…

FeathersJS + Nuxt/Next (or any front end you want) has been a good combo for me. Meteor always had a blocking issue for me every time I'd try to use it.

I like FeatherJS as well.

What kind of blocking issues? you mean getting it to run?

Re: Wekan: Open-source, trello-like kanban

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Post by ocdtrekkie »

carlos22 wrote: post #42
nebulon wrote: post #36

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While I tend to agree from a personal perspective, however the Wekan project especially seems to be able to pump out lots of very nice features at a high rate, thanks to meteor. Additionally to this, we at Cloudron update the app package about twice a week due to that and so far had very little breakage or regressions, compared to other apps. We do not update meteor often though, which is maybe contributing to the st…

Yes that helps but brings in other problems. For example many many security problems in the thousands of used npm packages of meteor and its dependencies.

I think at a certain point, very restrictive sandboxing is going to be the only way to safely run JavaScript-based projects.

Re: Wekan: Open-source, trello-like kanban

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Post by elviejo »

biddlesby wrote: post #10
rhabarba wrote: post #5

Assumption: Most teams which use a kanban system would work just as efficiently with a couple of org-mode files.

What are org-mode files?

org-mode is personal organization "application* that runs inside the emacs text editor.

Some, including me, swear by it as the ultimate personal organizer, note taking, mind dumping application

Re: Wekan: Open-source, trello-like kanban

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Post by saralily »

rhabarba wrote: post #5

Assumption: Most teams which use a kanban system would work just as efficiently with a couple of org-mode files.

Kanban relies on sensory intuition. Org-mode requires you to build up a whole new epistemological relationship to the elements of an outline. They are pretty different, and Org-mode requires a _lot_ of time investment.
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