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Re: Organizing a Group Buy of Flour

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Post by HeyLaughingBoy »

geodel wrote: post #49
droopyEyelids wrote: post #18

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waffles are the perfect comfort food during these times- 2c flour, 1.75c milk, 1/2c melted butter or oil, big pinch of salt, 4tsp baking powder, 2 eggs. Throw in some vanilla or other flavor concentrate if you'd like! A quick crowd pleasing recipe using all staples

Thanks for this. I am going to try your recipe. Few months back we bought Waffle maker with great expectations. However after 2 disastrous attempts which resulted in very stogy waffles, we put that away. I was wondering should if we just buy some readymade batter that some stores sell.

I'm not a big believer in prepackaged mixes of cakes/etc., but Krusteaz Belgian Waffle mix is da bomb. Good enough that I don't bother making waffles from scratch unless i'm out.

Re: Organizing a Group Buy of Flour

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Post by HeyLaughingBoy »

nkozyra wrote: post #66
geodel wrote: post #49

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Thanks for this. I am going to try your recipe. Few months back we bought Waffle maker with great expectations. However after 2 disastrous attempts which resulted in very stogy waffles, we put that away. I was wondering should if we just buy some readymade batter that some stores sell.

Waffle makers also produce phenomenal cornbread (or cornwaffles) in minutes. Otherwise it's an appliance that doesn't get much use around lunch/dinner time.

Brush waffle iron with oil, place a handful of tater tots inside, and close to cook.

Re: Organizing a Group Buy of Flour

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Post by HeyLaughingBoy »

ghaff wrote: post #5
Finnucane wrote: post #3

I’ve thought about buying one of those big sacks of flour—I bake bread and other stuff routinely, so I know I’d use it up eventually. I mean, I just got a half-pound of vanilla beans. But storage becomes an issue. I’m already struggling a bit to find places for the extra stocking up.

Even something like flour doesn't really last forever--especially if you don't have ideal storage conditions. Maybe you bake enough though.

eh, just look at the weevils as extra protein.

Re: Organizing a Group Buy of Flour

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Post by soared »

irrational wrote: post #117

My local stores are totally sold out of flour. I had to travel to a different state to pick up my daughter from college. While traveling, I stopped at a Costco for gas. On a whim I went into the store and they actually had some flour available. I purchased about 200 lbs, even though I had to pay sales tax, since I have no idea when flour will again be available in my area. When I got home my wife asked me if they had…

Flour goes bad in <8 months. I hope your using a pound a day.

Re: Organizing a Group Buy of Flour

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Post by robocat »

baybal2 wrote: post #116
samatman wrote: post #99

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These aren't food security issues, these are supply chain issues. The difference is enormous, and it's far too soon to relax about famine. We'll know if that happened by about 2023.

A time when people can't eat food IS a food security issue. Do not invent other names for it. The Irish famine has happened when UK was drowning in corn, and had the best harvest in many years. The Bengal famine has happened in times when most regions of India had otherwise at least bearable harvests. The Ukrainian famine has happened in times when the soviet union had bumper harvests, and was exporting megatons of g…

> A time when people can't eat food IS a food security issue

If no food is available, sure. If other food is available, no way. Are people starving in the US yet due to food unavailability?

Re: Organizing a Group Buy of Flour

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Post by HeyLaughingBoy »

baybal2 wrote: post #116
samatman wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These aren't food security issues, these are supply chain issues. The difference is enormous, and it's far too soon to relax about famine. We'll know if that happened by about 2023.

A time when people can't eat food IS a food security issue. Do not invent other names for it. The Irish famine has happened when UK was drowning in corn, and had the best harvest in many years. The Bengal famine has happened in times when most regions of India had otherwise at least bearable harvests. The Ukrainian famine has happened in times when the soviet union had bumper harvests, and was exporting megatons of g…

One very large difference is that even at the height of the supply problem (store stock levels are pretty much back to normal now), suppliers weren't out of food or unable to restock the stores. There was plenty of food being supplied to the stores, but people were arriving very early in the morning and buying up as much as possible. Once limits were imposed, this started coming under control.

Re: Organizing a Group Buy of Flour

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Post by baybal2 »

robocat wrote: post #125
baybal2 wrote: post #116

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A time when people can't eat food IS a food security issue. Do not invent other names for it. The Irish famine has happened when UK was drowning in corn, and had the best harvest in many years. The Bengal famine has happened in times when most regions of India had otherwise at least bearable harvests. The Ukrainian famine has happened in times when the soviet union had bumper harvests, and was exporting megatons of g…

> A time when people can't eat food IS a food security issue If no food is available, sure. If other food is available, no way. Are people starving in the US yet due to food unavailability?

Have you not seen news of people in the US not able to buy any normal food for weeks, and having to subsist on things like potato chips, and instant noodles?

And, yeah. Having a double digit of your (American) population being socially marginalised, relying on unreliable food stamp program, and having no alternative to junk food should've also been called a genuine food crisis long ago.

Famines do happen even when there is food on the shelves, like in Yemen, early nineties China, or late ussr.

Re: Organizing a Group Buy of Flour

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Post by samatman »

robocat wrote: post #125
baybal2 wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A time when people can't eat food IS a food security issue. Do not invent other names for it. The Irish famine has happened when UK was drowning in corn, and had the best harvest in many years. The Bengal famine has happened in times when most regions of India had otherwise at least bearable harvests. The Ukrainian famine has happened in times when the soviet union had bumper harvests, and was exporting megatons of g…

> A time when people can't eat food IS a food security issue If no food is available, sure. If other food is available, no way. Are people starving in the US yet due to food unavailability?

Exactly.

We've seen supply runs on certain popular shelf-stable starches.

I've never yet walked into a grocery store and been unable to leave with a variety of good foods, nor have I seen pictures of bare shelves. Sections, sure; last time I went to the grocery store, tortillas were cleared out for some reason.

These are supply shocks. To date, we have more than enough wheat for everyone who wants to eat it, and the mills are still producing abundant flour. What's straining is the system that delivers as much to the shelves as people are in the mood to buy.

Re: Organizing a Group Buy of Flour

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Post by jefftk »

devchix wrote: post #56
geodel wrote: post #49

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Thanks for this. I am going to try your recipe. Few months back we bought Waffle maker with great expectations. However after 2 disastrous attempts which resulted in very stogy waffles, we put that away. I was wondering should if we just buy some readymade batter that some stores sell.

Real waffles use yeast, sadly another item that's becoming scarce. Here's the Cook's Illustrated recipe which I use very often, it turns out excellent waffles. 1 3/4 C milk 1 stick butter (melted but not hot) 2 C flour 1 T sugar 1 t salt 1 1/2 t yeast 2 eggs 1 t vanilla extract Whisk everything together in a lidded container. Stick in fridge overnight (10 hrs min, 24 hrs max). It'll be thick and bubbly in the morning…

I still see yeast online with reasonable shipping time: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HST626C/

Re: Organizing a Group Buy of Flour

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Post by mattrp »

HeyLaughingBoy wrote: post #118
mattrp wrote: post #114

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We just finished our 25lb bag from the Ebola panic buying days... make sure before you buy a ton of flour you know what you’re going to do with it. Bread isn’t very good without yeast (good luck finding that), cakes aren’t very good with all purpose flour, pasta is really hard to make without a pasta maker, etc... sorry to be a downer but I’m kind of the opinion that while some flour is good, and it’s certainly good…

Mix flour and water and sugar and in a day you'll have a culture of natural yeast going and you can keep replenishing it as needed. There are also a variety of baking powder/soda breads you can make. I've been baking cakes since I was about 13 and I have never used anything other than AP flour. OK. I've used bread flour in a pinch, being super-careful to mix it very little because of the high protein content. Pasta:…

Thank you for adding these points. I did not know about the yeast - so thank you!
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