Wildlife collapse from climate change is predicted to hit suddenly and sooner

These articles scare me. Another one with exactly the same message: Things are worse than we thought, it was already bad, we are not coming close to doing enough to save us, there isn't even much of a plan.

And then I see most of the west handling covid-19 just like we handle everything: No clear direction, minimal effort, leaders asleep at the wheel, politicians trying to get the better of each other, rich people get richer.

Climate was an important theme in our last elections, but even the green party had no clue whatsoever, and the voters made it clear they did not even remotely care.

Now Covid-19 is easy stuff compared to the climate. I was hoping Covid-19 could serve as a wake up call for the cost of incompetence in our organisations. But that does not seem to happen.

Covid-19 has a pattern I also see in the climate: First, nobody cares for some theoretical crisis far away, then its in our countries but still not personal, and by now everybody knows about a specific person who died. Climate is a theoretical crisis far away for now.

So how do we proceed from here?

Re: Wildlife collapse from climate change is predicted to hit suddenly and sooner

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Post by sixQuarks » Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 8:10 PM UTC

hyperman1 wrote: post #4

These articles scare me. Another one with exactly the same message: Things are worse than we thought, it was already bad, we are not coming close to doing enough to save us, there isn't even much of a plan. And then I see most of the west handling covid-19 just like we handle everything: No clear direction, minimal effort, leaders asleep at the wheel, politicians trying to get the better of each other, rich people ge…

The book Collapse by Jared Diamond is frightening. It shows that throughout history, civilizations have collapsed with eyes wide open. Unlike today, those civilizations faced local collapse, now we have the potential of global collapse and we haven’t changed a goddamn bit

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Post by cosmic_shame » Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 8:10 PM UTC

Glavnokoman wrote: post #3

samizdis wrote: post #2

How did you go bankrupt? Two ways. Gradually, then suddenly. ― Ernest Hemingway, The Sun Also Rises

Yeah. But the bankruptcy of the ecosystems make me sad.

It's going to make all of us a lot worse than sad.

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Post by perfunctory » Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 8:15 PM UTC

hyperman1 wrote: post #4

These articles scare me. Another one with exactly the same message: Things are worse than we thought, it was already bad, we are not coming close to doing enough to save us, there isn't even much of a plan. And then I see most of the west handling covid-19 just like we handle everything: No clear direction, minimal effort, leaders asleep at the wheel, politicians trying to get the better of each other, rich people ge…

> So how do we proceed from here?

Like we always do when our leaders fail us. Organise and rebel.

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Post by tiny_epoch » Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 8:16 PM UTC

hyperman1 wrote: post #4

These articles scare me. Another one with exactly the same message: Things are worse than we thought, it was already bad, we are not coming close to doing enough to save us, there isn't even much of a plan. And then I see most of the west handling covid-19 just like we handle everything: No clear direction, minimal effort, leaders asleep at the wheel, politicians trying to get the better of each other, rich people ge…

Lately, I've been thinking that COVID-19 is the solution to climate change.

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Post by yters » Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 8:19 PM UTC

perfunctory wrote: post #7

hyperman1 wrote: post #4

These articles scare me. Another one with exactly the same message: Things are worse than we thought, it was already bad, we are not coming close to doing enough to save us, there isn't even much of a plan. And then I see most of the west handling covid-19 just like we handle everything: No clear direction, minimal effort, leaders asleep at the wheel, politicians trying to get the better of each other, rich people ge…

> So how do we proceed from here? Like we always do when our leaders fail us. Organise and rebel.

So on top of environmental collapse we can have social collapse as well? Sounds like a recipe for success.

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Post by monadic2 » Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 8:19 PM UTC

hyperman1 wrote: post #4

These articles scare me. Another one with exactly the same message: Things are worse than we thought, it was already bad, we are not coming close to doing enough to save us, there isn't even much of a plan. And then I see most of the west handling covid-19 just like we handle everything: No clear direction, minimal effort, leaders asleep at the wheel, politicians trying to get the better of each other, rich people ge…

> Climate was an important theme in our last elections, but even the green party had no clue whatsoever, and the voters made it clear they did not even remotely care.

Climate should have been an important theme, but because there seemed to be little coverage or comparison of climate change policy, I can’t blame the voters for not factoring it into their decisions. Why was there no DNC-hosted climate change debate? There was too much punditry and too little substance for voters to make informed decisions.