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Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by SlowRobotAhead »

wiremine wrote: post #397
ivraatiems wrote: post #64

As a current iPhone SE user, here's my assessment: Pros: * Feature set in terms of processor, camera, etc., is exactly what I want * Continued presence of Touch ID is a huge plus, I don't like Face ID * Price point is, admittedly, fantastic Cons: * Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable * Form factor is, candidly, still too big for my tiny hands * Color schemes aren't as nice as the SE's (can I contribute to CO…

> Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable I think I'm in the minority, but I haven't really missed the headphone jack in my iPhone 11. I have the Echo earbuds, and those have been good to great for my use cases. This continues to feel a bit like the 3.5 floppy and CD-ROM removals from the Mac: a lot of people hated it, until it was a nonissue.

You aren’t in the minority. You are in the silent majority though. Most people -and really emphasizing most in terms of what people actually buy not what they complain about online- don’t care about a 3.5mm jack.

It’s gone, it’s never coming back. To that end, once iPhone goes USB-C it’ll accelerate this majority non-issue.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by AgloeDreams »

thereyougo wrote: post #108

As much as I love apple products (I'm using mac and iPhone for years) I do think that the spark in their innovation is slowly fading. I can't remember the last time they 'Wow'ed me.

This is a budget device which is code for 'old iphone, new internals'

Probably just not the release you need to be wowed, they did this before.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

andrepd wrote: post #214

I was itching for this announcement, not because I want to buy an iPhone, but because this will finally mean other manufacturers will start to make compact phones. It drives me up the wall that I simply cannot find a reasonably competent phone (i.e. mid/upper range from the past 4 years) which is not absolutely fucking huge. It's insane that the "phablet" standard from ~5 years ago is now not even the new standard, b…

Mind boggling to me that 4.7" is compact? I miss smaller phones, for sure.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by PunksATawnyFill »

acklenx wrote: post #469
ivraatiems wrote: post #64

As a current iPhone SE user, here's my assessment: Pros: * Feature set in terms of processor, camera, etc., is exactly what I want * Continued presence of Touch ID is a huge plus, I don't like Face ID * Price point is, admittedly, fantastic Cons: * Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable * Form factor is, candidly, still too big for my tiny hands * Color schemes aren't as nice as the SE's (can I contribute to CO…

You say "As a current iPhone SE user... Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable" But you're a current user... so clearly you accepted it. And as long as you do (accept it, keep buying phones without headphone jacks) why would anyone change? The message you are sending (in the only way they care about $$$) is that you do in fact accept phones without headphone jacks. Just reading what you're writing...

Are you not aware that the original (not this new) SE had a headphone jack? He is a current user, meaning obviously the original one.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

frenchie4111 wrote: post #411
cactus2093 wrote: post #376

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know a few people that still have the SE, and for all of them it was mainly about the size. That and a belief that they didn't want to be glued to their phone all the time. So the benefit was a combination of the smaller size being more ergonomic, plus the fact that less content fit on the screen was actually a pro for them because the extra friction encourages wasting less time on it. It does seem weird that inste…

> That and a belief that they didn't want to be glued to their phone all the time. This made me think of another reason they are cutting smaller form factor phones, maybe not valid. It could be that manufacturers of mobile phones are optimizing for engagement (see: apple switching revenue to services), and the engagement metrics on smaller form factor phones are lower, so they want people using less of them. They onl…

The bigger the phone, the larger the surface area for the battery that they can put on it. I suspect that's the primary engineering concern driving it, and it just so happens that customers either like, or haven't balked, at large screens.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by thekyle »

werber wrote: post #287

I haven't felt like Apple has been making products for me recently until the Macbook Air release and now this. Sane price points, and the exact features I need. Not sure what changed over there, but I'm really impressed.

I'm sure there are many factors. But Jony Ive did recently leave.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by cglong »

acklenx wrote: post #469
ivraatiems wrote: post #64

As a current iPhone SE user, here's my assessment: Pros: * Feature set in terms of processor, camera, etc., is exactly what I want * Continued presence of Touch ID is a huge plus, I don't like Face ID * Price point is, admittedly, fantastic Cons: * Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable * Form factor is, candidly, still too big for my tiny hands * Color schemes aren't as nice as the SE's (can I contribute to CO…

You say "As a current iPhone SE user... Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable" But you're a current user... so clearly you accepted it. And as long as you do (accept it, keep buying phones without headphone jacks) why would anyone change? The message you are sending (in the only way they care about $$$) is that you do in fact accept phones without headphone jacks. Just reading what you're writing...

I'm pretty sure the original SE has a headphone jack.
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