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Two obvious things: - Schools weren't opened for most of the month - Article is pushing an anti-gun agenda (not surprising for CBS) What is glaringly omitted: how is a "school shooting" defined? The article mentioned some event that happened on campus (in the football field), which probably counts as a "school shooting" knowing the source of the data is an anti gun rights group. I wouldn't be surprised if the definit…
Two obvious things: - Schools weren't opened for most of the month - Article is pushing an anti-gun agenda (not surprising for CBS) What is glaringly omitted: how is a "school shooting" defined? The article mentioned some event that happened on campus (in the football field), which probably counts as a "school shooting" knowing the source of the data is an anti gun rights group. I wouldn't be surprised if the definit…
"there were a total of seven shootings that took place on school campuses in March 2020. Four of those shootings were classified as unintentional discharges, one took place between adults on a high school football field over the weekend and two occurred on college campuses but involved no students." I find it odd that these don't count, and that they happened in the first place.
School shootings refer to mass killings or attempted killings directed at fellow students and staff, usually indiscriminately. Adding “normal” homicides, suicides, gang violence and accidents that could happen anywhere, and that happen due to ancient, well understood motivations, would be too noisy and create the need for a new statistic and term that exclude them.
Two obvious things: - Schools weren't opened for most of the month - Article is pushing an anti-gun agenda (not surprising for CBS) What is glaringly omitted: how is a "school shooting" defined? The article mentioned some event that happened on campus (in the football field), which probably counts as a "school shooting" knowing the source of the data is an anti gun rights group. I wouldn't be surprised if the definit…
You shouldn't quibble over definitions, worry about narratives or attitudes. You should consider what can be done to make schools safer environments for our children.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
School shootings refer to mass killings or attempted killings directed at fellow students and staff, usually indiscriminately. Adding “normal” homicides, suicides, gang violence and accidents that could happen anywhere, and that happen due to ancient, well understood motivations, would be too noisy and create the need for a new statistic and term that exclude them.
Anywhere is a misnomer in this case as no other country has such a gun culture so anywhere in the US is probably more appropriate.
It seems like they're using two different definitions of school shooting. Even though there have been multiple shootings at schools in March of 2020, it's been decided none of them count because they either didn't involve students or because they were caused by negligence and not a desire to intentionally harm someone.
However they're not judging other years as stringently. I spot checked a few years in their cited sources[1][2] and about half the years I looked at seemed iffy.
For example, look at their data for 2009. Neither of their "school shootings" actually happened at a school.
For 2004, the only school shooting was a suicide, which is technically a school shooting but probably less of a threat to students than the 4 shootings at school this March that were caused by negligent discharges.
The only incident they have for 2006[3] was someone who was beaten to death, not sure how that counts as a shooting. (QUICK EDIT, I'm wrong about this one, I thought the events were listed in chronological order but they aren't so I missed some actual shootings)
[1]: https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED519244.pdf
[2]: https://www.schoolsecurity.org/trends/violent-deaths-and-sch...
[3]: https://www.schoolsecurity.org/trends/violent-deaths-and-sch...
"there were a total of seven shootings that took place on school campuses in March 2020. Four of those shootings were classified as unintentional discharges, one took place between adults on a high school football field over the weekend and two occurred on college campuses but involved no students." I find it odd that these don't count, and that they happened in the first place.
When you include these kinds of incidents in the tallies of "shootings", the picture looks even worse for the US as a whole.
A veteran committing suicide in the parking lot of a long disused school counts as a ‘school shooting’.
It’s dishonest.
Unless my reading comprehension is off this morning, that claim seems incredibly misleading. It seems like they're using two different definitions of school shooting. Even though there have been multiple shootings at schools in March of 2020, it's been decided none of them count because they either didn't involve students or because they were caused by negligence and not a desire to intentionally harm someone. Howeve…
Bad statistic. School has been either cancelled or online. It's be like saying "No electrocutions" in the 1700s or no "social media anything's in the 1800s".
Pretty sure that’s the main point of the article. It took a global pandemic for us to not have a shooting
Bad statistic. School has been either cancelled or online. It's be like saying "No electrocutions" in the 1700s or no "social media anything's in the 1800s".
>March 16, 2005: Covington, KY
>A man was shot to death and two people were wounded in an altercation about 40 yards from an elementary school. The school went into a lockdown. The incident did not involve individuals associated with the school, but a teacher at the school had heard the shots and the school was locked down to protect students and staff.
The shooting only needs to take place near the school to make it on the list, and by the way this was the only gun-related injury in March on that list.