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March 2020 was the first March without a school shooting in the U.S. since 2002

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Re: March 2020 was the first March without a school shooting in the U.S. since 2002

#11

Bad statistic. School has been either cancelled or online. It's be like saying "No electrocutions" in the 1700s or no "social media anything's in the 1800s".

School wasn't cancelled nationwide in early March. My area didn't cancel school until March 15th.

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Re: March 2020 was the first March without a school shooting in the U.S. since 2002

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"there were a total of seven shootings that took place on school campuses in March 2020. Four of those shootings were classified as unintentional discharges, one took place between adults on a high school football field over the weekend and two occurred on college campuses but involved no students." I find it odd that these don't count, and that they happened in the first place.

When you include these kinds of incidents in the tallies of "shootings", the picture looks even worse for the US as a whole.

Re: March 2020 was the first March without a school shooting in the U.S. since 2002

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Two obvious things:

- Schools weren't opened for most of the month

- Article is pushing an anti-gun agenda (not surprising for CBS)

What is glaringly omitted: how is a "school shooting" defined? The article mentioned some event that happened on campus (in the football field), which probably counts as a "school shooting" knowing the source of the data is an anti gun rights group. I wouldn't be surprised if the definition is quite broad so as to boost the stats.

So this is obvious narrative-pushing. But I might counter with, "See, this is a great reason to keep the schools closed. Look at the reduction in school shootings!" Which would fit right in with the level of discourse in American politics.

On a meta level, I'm genuinely curious how people's attitudes have changed throughout the COVID pandemic, not only about guns, but about homeschooling, privacy, surveillance, time with family, etc, etc.

Re: March 2020 was the first March without a school shooting in the U.S. since 2002

#16

Bad statistic. School has been either cancelled or online. It's be like saying "No electrocutions" in the 1700s or no "social media anything's in the 1800s".

I also think this is a stupid statistic, who the hell is counting the first March since blah year?

Re: March 2020 was the first March without a school shooting in the U.S. since 2002

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"there were a total of seven shootings that took place on school campuses in March 2020. Four of those shootings were classified as unintentional discharges, one took place between adults on a high school football field over the weekend and two occurred on college campuses but involved no students." I find it odd that these don't count, and that they happened in the first place.

Most "school shootings" which are counted in statistics are actually events like this - incidents of violence which simply happen to occur near an educational institution such as universities.

Re: March 2020 was the first March without a school shooting in the U.S. since 2002

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Two obvious things: - Schools weren't opened for most of the month - Article is pushing an anti-gun agenda (not surprising for CBS) What is glaringly omitted: how is a "school shooting" defined? The article mentioned some event that happened on campus (in the football field), which probably counts as a "school shooting" knowing the source of the data is an anti gun rights group. I wouldn't be surprised if the definit…

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Re: March 2020 was the first March without a school shooting in the U.S. since 2002

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"there were a total of seven shootings that took place on school campuses in March 2020. Four of those shootings were classified as unintentional discharges, one took place between adults on a high school football field over the weekend and two occurred on college campuses but involved no students." I find it odd that these don't count, and that they happened in the first place.

School shootings refer to mass killings or attempted killings directed at fellow students and staff, usually indiscriminately.

Adding “normal” homicides, suicides, gang violence and accidents that could happen anywhere, and that happen due to ancient, well understood motivations, would be too noisy and create the need for a new statistic and term that exclude them.

Re: March 2020 was the first March without a school shooting in the U.S. since 2002

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Two obvious things: - Schools weren't opened for most of the month - Article is pushing an anti-gun agenda (not surprising for CBS) What is glaringly omitted: how is a "school shooting" defined? The article mentioned some event that happened on campus (in the football field), which probably counts as a "school shooting" knowing the source of the data is an anti gun rights group. I wouldn't be surprised if the definit…

I mean, yes, there's a "narrative" being "pushed" that kids getting shot dead is bad and unnecessary, and more or less unique to the US and active warzones, so perhaps (like the pandemic) you should do something about it rather than just count the bodies? Or in the case of Alex Jones, libel the parents of the victims?
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