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Re: Trello handed over my personal account to my previous company

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Post by yardie »

mercer wrote: post #170
yardie wrote: post #143

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And in fact this used to be how it worked. Work boards showed up in a separate section that was clearly defined as enterprise. So my private work boards, team boards, and template boards were there. My family and personal boards were under my username. And it worked like this for years. Sans souci

So we can conclude that Atlassian started its journey fucking up Trello?

Not only did they fuck it up. It was implicitly used as a feature. If you can attach multiple email accounts to a service then of course you would attach your work email to it.

The real devious behaviour was assigning your entire account to another entity to manage and without your permission. I've had to create a new account, ask the enterprise account manager to remove my account, and move my cards to another account. I've been using the account for 9 years and created many small integrations. Why would I want to give that up? Now my workflow is broken because the Trello app only allows one login so I have to decide is it going to be work or personal that I'm viewing because I can't do both.

Re: Trello handed over my personal account to my previous company

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Post by raldi »

bearer_token wrote: post #200

Imagine this from the other perspective: 1. You use Trello to track work with your team. 2. You invite your team to use Trello using corporate email accounts. 3. Someone leaves the company. You decommission their corporate email. 4. Five years later, you find out that person still has access to all of your work trello boards. At this point, I'd be flipping my shit and threatening to sue Trello. Trello's response woul…

That's nothing like the real-world situation being discussed here.

Re: Trello handed over my personal account to my previous company

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Post by Assisting »

ernsheong wrote: post #191
TLightful wrote: post #125

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Wow. Bye bye, Atlassian. Moving immediately.

I created a Trello alternative, check it out at https://www.kanrails.com Would love to get feedback!

First piece of feedback, don't suggest somebody use a work email and company name on a Trello alternative right after this debacle happened.

Re: Trello handed over my personal account to my previous company

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Post by scruple »

abjKT26nO8 wrote: post #167
Silhouette wrote: post #158

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A lot of people seem to develop a strange sense of loyalty to services they like (and haven't been stung by, obviously). Try suggesting that you can run a software business without using GitHub as your single point of failure^W^W^W^Wsource control system, and a lot of young developers will just laugh and wonder what you've been smoking. Try challenging Apple's walled garden philosophy and suggesting that their mobile…

> Try suggesting that you can run a software business without using GitHub as your single point of failure^W^W^W^Wsource control system, and a lot of young developers will just laugh and wonder what you've been smoking. TBH, I've never worked at a company that would host their source code at a third party service. At my first job, we wouldn't even use a web UI for the repositories (I still think that's not all that u…

> At my first job, we wouldn't even use a web UI for the repositories

It's been a long time since I used it but I used to lean on gitweb for this at places that self-hosted git repositories but didn't have any UI layer on top. I remember it being perfectly fine for my needs.

Re: Trello handed over my personal account to my previous company

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Post by nilsandrey »

ssorallen wrote: post #168
znpy wrote: post #127

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> You don't need separate Firefox profiles for that, you can use Firefox containers. Firefox Containers are awful. Only firefox profiles can give you true separation. It would have been better if Mozilla had added a better interface to profiles.

> It would have been better if Mozilla had added a better interface to profiles. Profiles in Chrome and their ease of use (Cmd+Shift+M to open a new window in a different profile) is the primary reason I still use Chrome over Firefox. I have a Personal, a Work, and a Development profile. The development profile is where I install dev extensions like React Devtools, Redux Devtools, etc. because they require full acces…

I see your point now, I was preferring containers because I have this scenario where I want the data separation it provides without the need of reinstalling add-ons, especially on a temporal container/profile. The shared window can be nice on some particular moments where I don't need to have a lot of pages opened and are continuously changing from tab to tab.

Thinking over about you said, now I think I like things from the two worlds, maybe better interface to containers or even better UI for profiles, with options to overcome the containers (maybe should be better for the average user instead of having both).

For the time being, I prefer to have both options (don't have it now) but I think both can be improved.

Re: Trello handed over my personal account to my previous company

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Post by diggan »

omnimus wrote: post #180
znpy wrote: post #127

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> You don't need separate Firefox profiles for that, you can use Firefox containers. Firefox Containers are awful. Only firefox profiles can give you true separation. It would have been better if Mozilla had added a better interface to profiles.

Why are Containers awful? Its great i use it all the time for this purpose.

I'm not znpy so I don't know why they don't like containers.

But I prefer profiles myself, as I have different extensions in different profiles and I get the two completely separate instances of Firefox, while containers are just separate tabs instead.

I don't think containers are awful though, they are just less useful for my use case than profiles.

Re: Trello handed over my personal account to my previous company

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Post by cssinate »

diggan wrote: post #206
omnimus wrote: post #180

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Why are Containers awful? Its great i use it all the time for this purpose.

I'm not znpy so I don't know why they don't like containers. But I prefer profiles myself, as I have different extensions in different profiles and I get the two completely separate instances of Firefox, while containers are just separate tabs instead. I don't think containers are awful though, they are just less useful for my use case than profiles.

I sometimes have issues with the profiles too though. If I have both profiles running concurrently and I click a link from a different application, I get an error that "Firefox is already running" and it freezes up the window with my primary profile.

Do you ever experience that?

Re: Trello handed over my personal account to my previous company

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Post by diggan »

abjKT26nO8 wrote: post #167
Silhouette wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of people seem to develop a strange sense of loyalty to services they like (and haven't been stung by, obviously). Try suggesting that you can run a software business without using GitHub as your single point of failure^W^W^W^Wsource control system, and a lot of young developers will just laugh and wonder what you've been smoking. Try challenging Apple's walled garden philosophy and suggesting that their mobile…

> Try suggesting that you can run a software business without using GitHub as your single point of failure^W^W^W^Wsource control system, and a lot of young developers will just laugh and wonder what you've been smoking. TBH, I've never worked at a company that would host their source code at a third party service. At my first job, we wouldn't even use a web UI for the repositories (I still think that's not all that u…

> But I work as a C++ dev, so maybe it's different here than, say, in webdev world

Most likely that's the reason. I've only worked on web projects and everywhere I worked has been using GitHub for hosting the code and managing merge requests, except my first work where we used Redmine and then 6 months later migrated everything to GitHub.

Re: Trello handed over my personal account to my previous company

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Post by counterweight7 »

gumby wrote: post #6

I think atlassian’s position is correct here, sad to say. They had to make a branch cut and i don’t think the other arm would be safe for them (company stuff leaked to a private account). Of course that stuff was already leaked, but I think the liability would fall on Atlassian if the company count delete that stuff. Don’t connect your personal stuff to your work stuff. That’s messed me up more than once — lesson lea…

I basically think this is correct and it comes down to lawyers.

It's now the team of Trello lawyers, AND the team of ACME company lawyers, against Sole Person and their lawyers.

From Trello's perspective, that is much more of a winnable battle then Trello V Person V ACME.

If you're likely to be sued by the loser on the side of a battle, get sued by the one with a smaller warchest.

Re: Trello handed over my personal account to my previous company

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Post by droithomme »

What about sending Atlassian a cease and desist order, citing copyright law? They are not hosting your personal copyrighted content with your permission any more and have given access of it to unauthorized parties. I think you should consider seeing an IP lawyer. Since they are not being reasonable and are forcing you to legal measures, simply restoring your account is insufficient, you will want a settlement. Each violation of your copyrighted material might be good for $250,000 in fines.
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