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Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by KenoFischer »

Tepix wrote: post #202
KenoFischer wrote: post #135

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Hmm, looks like GitHub pages are a paid feature? One of our private repos hosts our (public) website. Even with the price cut, the Team plan is still almost $100/month more expensive than the grandfathered in legacy plan we currently have that includes GitHub pages.

Github pages are free for public repos, aren't they? Perhaps switching to a public repo is an option.

Yes, I considered it, but that's how unfinished draft blog posts end up on HN ;). We'll probably just stop using Pages and deploy to S3 instead - it's a fairly minimal change.

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Post by tptacek »

kube-system wrote: post #203
tptacek wrote: post #187

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You said "OAuth only does authz and must be combined with other technologies to get authn"; obviously, that's not true, in the sense that you can simply use OIDC --- a dialect of OAuth --- to get both. Since OIDC is better than SAML, which is probably the scariest security standard on the Internet, I think it's worth being clear to people that OIDC/OAuth is viable. The SAML authz story, for what it's worth, is pretty…

For sure. I never said SAML was any good -- I said I found it to be simpler. :)

For developers, they're both just libraries. As protocols to implement, SAML is drastically harder.

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by ebrescia »

ccmcarey wrote: post #190
ebrescia wrote: post #125

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Hi, I'm Erica, GitHub's COO. Pricing for Pro Accounts has been changed to $4/mo.It includes 2GB of Packages storage, 10 GB of data transfer and email support. You can downgrade your account to the Free tier if you'd like by following these steps: https://help.github.com/en/github/setting-up-and-managing-bi... A full FAQ on pricing is available here: https://help.github.com/en/github/getting-started-with-githu... Hope…

Seems kind of odd as Pro isn't listed on https://github.com/pricing as far as I can see.

We're working on clarifying this.

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by microdrum »

alecbenzer wrote: post #150
microdrum wrote: post #101

So it will be free until the competition dies, and then it will be expensive? Like... everything MSFT and GOOG have ever done? Great.

When has GOOG made something expensive once the competition died? I guess for that matter... also when has MSFT? I buy they have, but not aware of any examples of the top of my head.

Um, AdWords.

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Post by staticassertion »

amsully wrote: post #61
grinich wrote: post #59

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I don't work at GitHub, but I believe if you reach out to GitHub Support and sign an NDA they can provide you the SOC-2 report. (Most vendors will do this.)

We reached out and were told we would need to upgrade to the enterprise version. (This was probably 5 months ago before they announced a few startup friendly offerings)

I'm curious why you need the SOC2 report itself instead of some sort of signed statement of compliance. The details of the SOC2 don't seem like they should be important?

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Post by armadsen »

JMTQp8lwXL wrote: post #75
natfriedman wrote: post #26

Hi HN, I'm the CEO of GitHub. Everyone at GitHub is really excited about this announcement, and I'm happy to answer any questions. We've wanted to make this change for the last 18 months, but needed our Enterprise business to be big enough to enable the free use of GitHub by the rest of the world. I'm happy to say that it's grown dramatically in the last year, and so we're able to make GitHub free for teams that don'…

I'd like to share feedback on GitHub Actions. Tried it out, and the learning curve was too much. I want to use stuff I already know -- e.g., write a Dockerfile, and then GH could run it on PR builds. The "workflow" concept didn't land for me, and I hope you consider a more generalized, open-source approach to running arbitrary scripts in response to PRs being opened, merges to master, etc.

Counterpoint: I've never used Docker at all (I'm a Mac/iOS dev), and was able to get GitHub actions set up and doing what I needed it to in ~30 minutes. Its general similarity to other CI/CD solutions, TravisCI being the one I'm most familiar with, helped a lot.

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by buremba »

reilly3000 wrote: post #192
buremba wrote: post #171

Great to hear that! One last thing that would make Github a better alternative to Gitlab for teams is the self-hosted runners for organizations IMO.

https://help.github.com/en/actions/hosting-your-own-runners/...

> Note: Currently, you can add a self-hosted runner to a single repository. The ability to add and manage self-hosted runners for an entire organization will come in a future release.

Still waiting for it for the last few months. :)

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by harikb »

natfriedman wrote: post #26

Hi HN, I'm the CEO of GitHub. Everyone at GitHub is really excited about this announcement, and I'm happy to answer any questions. We've wanted to make this change for the last 18 months, but needed our Enterprise business to be big enough to enable the free use of GitHub by the rest of the world. I'm happy to say that it's grown dramatically in the last year, and so we're able to make GitHub free for teams that don'…

Slightly off topic, but I would like to request that you open Github for Education [1] for pandemic-related home-schoolers. Currently it requires verification as an accredited school & credentials. Any help is appreciated.

[1] https://education.github.com/schools

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by underdeserver »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #209
yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #123

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> Content moderation at GitHub scale is hard and sometimes mistakes are made. This is completely fair, but lack of transparency makes it significantly more frustrating.

Transparency can give bad actors a way to game and workaround the system.

More likely, ammo in a potential legal battle between GitHub and the banned party.

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by chrisweekly »

Saaster wrote: post #193
derefr wrote: post #133

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Sounds like SAML needs the same "everyone gets together to make a FOSS implementation that knows about the weird quirks of all the implementations it interacts with" approach that e.g. the Samba project was founded upon.

I agree. There's a million SAML for Java/Python/Node.js/Foo libraries out there, all with a long list of issues and known cases that don't work correctly, security issues etc. but it's the wrong model in my opinion. Instead of directly bolting SAML into your app, I think a FOSS implementation of an independently running service is the way to go. You run the battle tested open source service (locally / in your cloud),…

+1 Wish I had more upvotes to give. This should exist.
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