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Re: The Wolfram Physics Project

#91
post #76

Could somebody explain to Stephen Wolfram physics is already underway and the normal way to join in is to publish your ideas in appropriate venues and submit them to peer review?

Well, his reasoning is sound enough - if his results are truly spectacular, it probably won’t matter that they weren’t published in peer reviewed venues. At the same time, turning boring results into something fit for publishing can be very time consuming - more than the research itself, and at the opportunity cost of attacking juicier problems. So if your goal is to utterly revolutionize a field, and you are very co…

I haven't been deeply plugged into Wolfram's breakthroughs since "A New Kind Of Science," but if memory serves I don't think he's discovered anything that offers insight in the physics world in the utility sense. By which I mean: progress in physics usually looks like finding a novel relationship between previously-thought-separate phenomena, an improvement on the mechanics of using an existing theory for predictive power, or a conceptual simplification of existing theory (i.e. a new theory that completely explains the known observable phenomena of the previous theory while shaking out Russell's teapots the previous theory held).

I don't think Wolfram's work in the physics space on the cellular automata model has met any of these criteria, so it's not surprising he's not getting mainstrean publication traction. His CA model isn't bringing us novel relationships (yet; I hold out hope here), it isn't making it easier to do what we already do, it hasn't yielded any predictions that existing theories don't also yield, and it's certainly not simpler than field theory and relationship formulae that don't assume a CA. Until there's a breakthrough in one of those three categories that can't be done easily with one of the traditional mechanisms, Wolfram's doing the scientific equivalent of translating lingua franca physics into Klingon; not really wasted effort in that it can be valuable to see something from more than one point of view, but not something that anyone's gonna pay him for or devote their precious column-inches to.

Re: The Wolfram Physics Project

#92
post #84

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What path is Eric Weinstein taking? I've heard about him for the first time yesterday, when a section of his appearance on the Joe Rogan podcast was linked, where he talked much too confidently about a subject he probably shouldn't.

Which subject?

He claimed that "all our laboratory mice are broken".

Video links and discussion: https://www.reddit.com/r/longevity/comments/g0ioxq/if_it_is_...

Re: The Wolfram Physics Project

#93

So basically this: https://xkcd.com/505/ huh Stephen? -Question has anyone validated and/or disproved his Geometric Rules based approach and NKS Cellular automata against traditional physics models and found predictable conclusions that can be tested via experiment? IE is it really anything other alternative notation/representation system? It essentially presupposes a computational canvas to the universe,but in what…

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Re: The Wolfram Physics Project

#94
post #83

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The guy pretty much single handedly built a profitable company that enables him to pursue whatever research interests he want, and that’s been going for over 30 years. They hate him cause they ain’t him.

So did a lot of other people who aren’t extreme narcissists. I think it’s reasonable to find someone’s work admirable and yet think they have terrible personalities. There is a line of thought were people should be judged by what they create rather than how they behave, but luckily not many subscribe to it. Not even grown-up Linus Torvalds subscribes to it.

Why is this "lucky"? Its irrational in many cases, frankly. The work survives past the person. The personality quirks of the person are parochial - they only matter insofar as they impact our ability to create knowledge. In the case of a theoretical singular genius (hypothetically, not saying Wolfram is one) then personality traits are completely irrelevant to their impact, since they're not dependent upon collaboration with others. The error would be for those others to disregard their work due to their personality. The benefit would only flow in one direction in that case, and hence, it'd be irrational for the consumers to reject the work.

Re: The Wolfram Physics Project

#95
post #81

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Sure, let's force one of the most creative dude of this century back into the rigid pen others are allowed to play in, just in case he does something crazy and interesting. What a lame idea, truly worthy of a mandarin.

Aside: let's put "worthy of a mandarin" away forever

I've never heard the expression before. Could someone explain its meaning please?

Re: The Wolfram Physics Project

#96
post #50

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One potential archetype for him that is consistent is he simply cannot recognize these political concerns. Many of us feel anxiety about the idea we may be interpreted as stepping on peoples' work, or failing to recognize their efforts and how they may have led to our own advancement. It may be that Wolfram, for whatever reason, simply doesn't have that - not out of malice, but just as a core deficiency in his abilit…

His self-promotional patter is so simple and consistent you can train half-convincing markov models on it; clearly he could intellectually understand the problem and tone it down a notch or five if he wanted to. He doesn't, and IMO that makes him responsible.

You literally are illustrating my point. He clearly doesn't. Motives unknown. Could be a personality disorder.

In any case, rational people ought to just get over it.

Re: The Wolfram Physics Project

#97
The general tone of the comments here seems to be 'Stephen Wolfram is a pompous ass, so we shouldn't listen to anything he has to say'. After reading through the post I think that, yes, he probably is a pompous ass (you could certainly have trimmed out the paragraphs that sound like a self-congratulatory auto-biography without losing much), but I really hope people don't just ignore this because of that. There are some legitimately interesting things going on here, and I hope other, more traditional, rigorous, and less hype-prone scientific minds are willing to dive into it to see where it leads. If it'll actually be a unification of relativity and quantum mechanics, who knows, but there's definitely _something_ here, and I'd hate for it to just get ignored because of distaste for the man. There are some actual scientific predictions here - e.g. that there is a maximum speed at which quantum entanglements can happen, analogous to the speed of light in relativity - which I hope people start thinking about ways of designing experiments for/falsifying.

Re: The Wolfram Physics Project

#98
post #39

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I really think that cross-domain concepts are almost the only way to make huge leaps, so that's a precondition in my mind for any advancement. Check. In terms of "humility on both sides", it's such a common theme that this oft-cited assumption is taken as truth. Some of the greatest minds who had the most impact in our history were also insufferable assholes, who were stubborn and would not yield until people were fo…

Sure. The problem here is that exactly the ideas he's proposing to explore have already been explored. I've slightly edited my previous comment to point this out. The problem, in the very particular case of this blog post, is that the cost for lacking intellectual humility is spending time reinventing other people's wheels. And those wheels won't get him as far as he thinks they will. We know because they've already…

What if sometimes reinventing the wheel is in fact the efficient procedure and "humility" has nothing to do with it? Simultaneous discoveries and rediscoveries are something rather common. Rather than getting familiarized with some literature and, consequently, getting also tangled with the problems peculiar to how the literature has developed, maybe a fresh start from a different approach is sometimes preferable.

What specific literature are you referring to?

Re: The Wolfram Physics Project

#99

OK, so how does it all work? I’ve written a 448-page technical exposition (yes, I’ve been busy the past few months!). Another member of our team (Jonathan Gorard) has written two 60-page technical papers. And there’s other material available at the project website. But here I’m going to give a fairly non-technical summary of some of the high points. I wonder if this hapless postdoc-equivalent is going to get sued, to…

I sure hope not ;)

Re: The Wolfram Physics Project

#100

I'm pretty sure that this would violate Bell's theorem, and I'd love an explanation of why it wouldn't. It looks to me like a system of local, hidden variables, unless there's some sense in which changes in the hypergraph can propagate faster than the speed of light.

We can prove violation of the CHSH inequality, and hence compatibility with Bell's theorem, as a natural consequence of our formalism. See, for instance:

https://www.wolframcloud.com/obj/wolframphysics/Documents/so...

Or, for a less technical version of the basic idea:

https://www.wolframphysics.org/questions/quantum-mechanics/h...

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