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Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by fileeditview »

7777fps wrote: post #17
LifeIsBio wrote: post #2

This is pretty cool. Anyone have thoughts as to _why_ they’re making this move?

GitHub has significant vendor lock-in, so it makes sense to make it free to capture the market before a competitor gets traction. [Speculation:] Perhaps they've run the numbers and can figure out that they make enough money from enterprise clients and will make enough more money from the 'marketplace' being a channel for selling github integrations and addons to cover this cost of not trying to monetize through suppo…

What exactly is the lock-in mechanism?

E.g. I have git repos where I use multiple remotes (1 Github, 2 Gitlab..). So git is the same as everwhere.. I never felt locked in. It's not too hard to transfer your repos to another provider.

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by angrygoat »

pixelmonkey wrote: post #57
natfriedman wrote: post #26

Hi HN, I'm the CEO of GitHub. Everyone at GitHub is really excited about this announcement, and I'm happy to answer any questions. We've wanted to make this change for the last 18 months, but needed our Enterprise business to be big enough to enable the free use of GitHub by the rest of the world. I'm happy to say that it's grown dramatically in the last year, and so we're able to make GitHub free for teams that don'…

Hey Nat -- quick Q, with this change, is there any need for individual developers to pay for "Pro" accounts? Or did the benefits of a "Pro" account just get covered by the "Free" plan?

It looks like pro accounts have vanished? I can't find them anywhere; I assume we just won't be charged from here on out?

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by tekknolagi »

natfriedman wrote: post #39
tekknolagi wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi Nat. Big fan. I've been on GitHub for a long time now. There's a fair bit of friction in issue/PR management for people who have primarily CLI-centered workflows. I know that `hub` and friends exist, but will there be official, supported clients in the future? Also: are there plans to open source more of GitHub? Post Microsoft acquisition, I have been increasingly concerned about vendor lock-in, EEE, and so forth.

Yes, we are working on an official CLI here: https://github.com/cli/cli I think open sourcing GitHub is an interesting idea.

Oh, I did not realize that was official & supported. Excellent. Looking forward to its maturity.

Unrelated: have you seen https://sourcehut.org/? Thoughts?

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by Saaster »

Hmm, literally the only paid feature left on the Teams plan we're using is Draft PRs. I am worried that as it looks like I won't need to pay for this service, that I, my team and my code will become the product to monetize at some point in the future.

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by JMTQp8lwXL »

natfriedman wrote: post #26

Hi HN, I'm the CEO of GitHub. Everyone at GitHub is really excited about this announcement, and I'm happy to answer any questions. We've wanted to make this change for the last 18 months, but needed our Enterprise business to be big enough to enable the free use of GitHub by the rest of the world. I'm happy to say that it's grown dramatically in the last year, and so we're able to make GitHub free for teams that don'…

I'd like to share feedback on GitHub Actions. Tried it out, and the learning curve was too much. I want to use stuff I already know -- e.g., write a Dockerfile, and then GH could run it on PR builds. The "workflow" concept didn't land for me, and I hope you consider a more generalized, open-source approach to running arbitrary scripts in response to PRs being opened, merges to master, etc.

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by dehrmann »

7777fps wrote: post #17
LifeIsBio wrote: post #2

This is pretty cool. Anyone have thoughts as to _why_ they’re making this move?

GitHub has significant vendor lock-in, so it makes sense to make it free to capture the market before a competitor gets traction. [Speculation:] Perhaps they've run the numbers and can figure out that they make enough money from enterprise clients and will make enough more money from the 'marketplace' being a channel for selling github integrations and addons to cover this cost of not trying to monetize through suppo…

> GitHub has significant vendor lock-in

Do they? Unless you're on GitHub Enterprise, migrating is just moving your repos over the weekend, setting up new webhooks, emailing everyone a command to switch their upstream URL, and hoping the new workflow works for you. For teams of <100, this it one of the easier transitions to make.

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by sstephenson »

natfriedman wrote: post #26

Hi HN, I'm the CEO of GitHub. Everyone at GitHub is really excited about this announcement, and I'm happy to answer any questions. We've wanted to make this change for the last 18 months, but needed our Enterprise business to be big enough to enable the free use of GitHub by the rest of the world. I'm happy to say that it's grown dramatically in the last year, and so we're able to make GitHub free for teams that don'…

When will GitHub terminate its contract with ICE?

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by Operyl »

pubby wrote: post #67
natfriedman wrote: post #26

Hi HN, I'm the CEO of GitHub. Everyone at GitHub is really excited about this announcement, and I'm happy to answer any questions. We've wanted to make this change for the last 18 months, but needed our Enterprise business to be big enough to enable the free use of GitHub by the rest of the world. I'm happy to say that it's grown dramatically in the last year, and so we're able to make GitHub free for teams that don'…

Hey Nat glad to see you here. A few days ago one of the biggest team collaborative games (Space Station 13) got banned on GitHub without a public explanation from GitHub staff, but some suspect it was because the code contained bad words and slurs. Do you know if this is why the project was banned, and will these new private team repos be subject to the same terms/rules?

SS13 got banned? Damn, I loved reading that old DM codebase every once in a while. Where have you guys migrated to, GitLab?

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by atonse »

JMTQp8lwXL wrote: post #56
thramp wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a great change! One request: I wish that SAML was not an enterprise feature. SAML ought be a basic security feature like 2FA—it's especially valuable for open source teams who might use a mixture of services, and an easily accessible and cheap SSO solution would go a long way in raising the security bar for all teams, not just open source teams.

Stuff like SAML is kind of the only leverage freemium SaaS has for rationalizing charging enterprise customers.

Not true. There are other things (like audit logs, invoice/PO payments, better support) that enterprises will still want.

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by anonymoushn »

natfriedman wrote: post #26

Hi HN, I'm the CEO of GitHub. Everyone at GitHub is really excited about this announcement, and I'm happy to answer any questions. We've wanted to make this change for the last 18 months, but needed our Enterprise business to be big enough to enable the free use of GitHub by the rest of the world. I'm happy to say that it's grown dramatically in the last year, and so we're able to make GitHub free for teams that don'…

Hi Nat, will GitHub ever support git diff algorithms other than the default?
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