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Half of American workers would rather work from home forever: poll

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Re: Half of American workers would rather work from home forever: poll

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I've worked from home since 2001, except for a brief 2 year stint at Google. I think I'm far more productive at home because I have: - An office, with a door I can close This was going to be a big list, but I actually think that just about sums it up. The cube environment at Google was utterly intolerable, and made it hard to concentrate. It didn't help that the guys in another group next to us had a game where they…

> An office, with a door I can close Honestly IMHO having office rooms with ~4 (in exceptions 5 or 6) people is the bottom line for allowing productive work for any job needing concentration (and it's healthier either way). I never understood how some companies promoted the mass offices as a good solution for the employee, sure it's maybe cheaper for the employer but that normally the wrong end to save money. I've wo…

I'd prefer my own office. I worked with 3 others in a room and it was still distracting. I got much more focused and less self conscious if no one was there. I turned the lighting, climate, and windows just how I liked, and boom, productivity increase.

Re: Half of American workers would rather work from home forever: poll

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> Now would be a great time to try a new morning exercise routine. Getting out of the house for even a 10-minute morning walk can make all the difference in the trajectory of your day. You can build up to a 30-minute run over time, but it's easier to engrain the habit if you start with a very low bar. Just get dressed, prepare a to-go coffee if you like, and go for a walk around your block. You might be surprised at…

> It still makes me feel better, but it doesn't turn my brain on. I strongly suspect I need the human interaction :-/ Which is OK. Have you tried having "virtual coffees" with your colleagues? Let's say every one or two days at a fixed time? Or even 1-1 calls with a colleague that feels the same about it? It doesn't have to be about work. Believe me when I say that this is much more common than you think. In the very…

> Have you tried having "virtual coffees" with your colleagues?

Yep. Virtual coffees during work hours. Virtual beers after. It just doesn't cut it for me. I've narrowed it down to me being fine small-talk with friends in person, but feeling extremely awkward small-talking on a screen. It's probably the same mechanism that has made me hate "general chit chat" phone calls for as long as I can remember, while being comfortable with general chit chat in person.

> The truth is that some people DO need human contacts more than others.

I always knew this was the case for me, but I somehow thought that as long as I had a good set of friends and loved ones in my life, I would be fine with not seeing people on a regular basis. Turns out that's not the case.

> The only way you have right now is to "fake it until you make it" with virtual coffees, etc.

Yep. All in all, I can't complain. Everyone I know is healthy and employed. It could be a lot worse. I feel like a whiner now, but this was the umpeenth news story exhalting WFH and I couldn't refrain from commenting any longer.

> Plus, whenever you can, go out, even for short walks (check your local regulations and in general stay safe).

Yes, thankfully this is fine where I am now (the curve is thoroughly flattened, hospitalizations on a good decline for more than a week, and society will slowly start reopening next week). Stay safe, and best of luck to you!

Re: Half of American workers would rather work from home forever: poll

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Anytime a poll or election comes back 50/50 you seriously have to critique and justify whether any actual signal was uncovered. A yes/no question being answered 50/50 on the face of it tells you nothing. It’s good she breaks stuff down here, but that’s all ex-post rationalization - keep that in mind.

Re: Half of American workers would rather work from home forever: poll

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I've been working from home (in full time positions for a couple of tech companies) for the past ~12-13 years now. During that time I've done both purely-technical work and managerial work (managing other remoties).

I'm excited about the work-from-home revolution that's going on here, and I think it will benefit society and some level of work-from-home will stick for the long term, for many people. However, it's not for everyone. Some people just don't like the remote work lifestyle at all. It's also not for every kind of job or office.

I think we'll see a lot of hybrid arrangements in the post-covid world. Some offices might institute work-from-home only for tuesdays and thursdays. Or just have everyone come into the office on Mondays and cram all the important in-person meetings into that day. Or in some situations it will be an at-will flexibility (come in for specific meetings when it makes sense, or come use the office like you would a co-working space when your home life is a little crazier because the kids are out of school for the summer and/or there's a contractor remodeling the kitchen, etc).

I think most seemingly-virtualizable businesses that had offices before will still have offices for the foreseeable few years, but by implementing various hybrid policies they could see their average headcount onsite per day shrink significantly over time. For many the office will become optional and/or a part-time thing. One way they could react to this is to downsize their commercial real estate the next time contracts are up. Another way they could handle it would be to remodel the space they've got, trading out cube-farm areas for more private offices and private conference rooms that can be reserved ahead, which will draw some employees back for more hours on-site, until they find a balancing point.

The deeper transition for managers is getting away from the control-freak model of tracking "hours worked", and starting to focus instead on the "things done". The reason you hired your employee is not to punch a clock and stare at a wall for a fixed number of hours; you hired them to accomplish goals, and you're actually going to have to focus directly on measuring true work rather than time in a post-office-hours world. Once you break free of the chains of time-tracking, all kinds of efficiencies that benefit both the employer and the employee are unlocked through remote and flexible work arrangements.

Re: Half of American workers would rather work from home forever: poll

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As someone who has done remote working more or less exclusively for 6 years, the current state of affairs for most homes does not reflect the reality of what "Work From Home" looks like in normal, non-emergency times.

You can't competently work from home full time and also manage children. Even for people without children, they are dealing with co-workers who are juggling a new normal, have not set up dedicated work spaces, are fumbling to learn how to use zoom/meet/hangout etc...

I say all this to point out that, even in non-ideal conditions with little to no preparation or planning, most people would still rather work from home.

Work from home should be the STANDARD, not the exception, for white collar work.

Re: Half of American workers would rather work from home forever: poll

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For many/most people working from home is something new that is "forced" on them. I have been working from home (or on the road/'wherever I may roam' )(wander )(wander ) 80-90% of my time and I really enjoy it. For people who just started WFH they may combine WFH with virus, kids screaming, lockdown, isolation, etc. Circumstances are not BAU right now, for 99.9% of us. Once this blows over, and the infrastructure rem…

Yes I'm in the same situation and I was thinking the same thing reading the negative comments. It's important to not conflate the work from home aspect with the lockdown aspect.

Re: Half of American workers would rather work from home forever: poll

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The 25-34 age range had the most “Yes” I want to work from home. I wonder if experience made the later years want to not work from home, or what caused that.

> The 25-34 age range had the most “Yes” I want to work from home.

Did they? The only question I see broken down by age range is not about wanting to work from home, but "are you more productive working from home?".

Re: Half of American workers would rather work from home forever: poll

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I'm anticipating that most HNers prompted to comment here will be those thinking this unlikely or wrong or whatever. Every time something positive about remote working is on HN, only those opposing it seem to comment... So, anyway, here's my vote in favour of remote working! I've worked from home for the last 10 years straight, and two years in the decade before that. Working from home has always been best for me. Hi…

I've been full-time remote (work from home, with a 3-year stint of work from RV) since 1995. It's always worked well for me, and I've been plenty productive enough to keep employers happy. Raised 4 kids in that time, too, including homeschooling. When it works, it works!

Holy shit. I'm involuntarily WFH at the moment with two kids in kindergarten age and one in school age I'm "home schooling". It "works", but productivity gets a major hit and my sanity is on the line. Did you have a stay at home partner at the time or are you just a super human? :-D

Re: Half of American workers would rather work from home forever: poll

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I’m very curious about the sampling methodology here. This is anecdotal, but I am a millennial and precisely zero of my friends prefer working from home. So there must be bias in one of those two samples.

I asked the author:

The survey was conducted using mechanical turk for American workers with full-time jobs. We didn't control for age, as you can see in the age breakdown of "are you more productive working from home," so had some age groups more represented than others. The margin of error is 4%.

So that raises some red flags, because turkers are WAY more likely to be favorable towards WFH conditions. They already do that!

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