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Re: Ask HN: Programs that wasted you 100 hours?

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I've become wiser over the years, but the top 3 were 3: Windows/Symantec Defrag (pre-Vista era) When I had 10-40GB hdds it used to be mesmerising watching the blocks fly around the screen. Eventually I find something else to do and pretend the computer's broken. 2: Macromedia/Adobe Flash. Sometimes animations just didn't want to work. Tweens are notoriously random with complex drawings. Delete and start all over agai…

Defrag felt so good knowing things were getting put where they belonged.

Re: Ask HN: Programs that wasted you 100 hours?

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Desktop Linux. Always something needs to be set up, always something breaking, always something needed to be fixed, always had a problem to solve.

Definitely agree with others: you might have had the wrong distro.

I have been running Ubuntu for about 6 years and have had less day-to-day config or issues than Windows had.

The only issues that stick out are either trying to use apps that haven't been maintained or trying to do something Linux just isn't good at (games).

I use Windows 10 for games, but day-to-day I am on Ubuntu 18.04.

Re: Ask HN: Programs that wasted you 100 hours?

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Heroku.

It just isn't good. I tried it way back and most of the time it turned into a struggle that wasted hours.

I recently went back to it, thinking that it should be good now; it isn't.

My typical environment for a site is supervisor + nginx. Nothing crazy, super simple.

For whatever reason, the heroku instance refused to take in my config (set with `heroku config` and it was showing up in the Heroku console... but my service was like "nope, not there". The keys existed on process.env but were empty).

After about an hour I said "whatever" and stood it up on nginx + supervisor in 15 minutes.

Re: Ask HN: Programs that wasted you 100 hours?

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Gmail. At some point they redesigned the UI and it's been a horrible experience since. It hasn't wasted 100 hours, but it certainly feels like it: - It takes multiple tries to delete files or select them as read. If you select the options to mark as read, or delete a message. For some reason it 'forgets' that I've done this when I exit the browser, and so I usually have to perform this operation at least twice. - The…

Good luck trying to delete hundreds of messages in one go. Quite often it will just glitch out half way through and display generic Google errors for the next 10 minutes when I try to reload the page.

Re: Ask HN: Programs that wasted you 100 hours?

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I don't want to mention individual projects and services, but the two most common experiences are:

1. Documentation. A chat provider and a serverless framework where the documentation or the typescript definitions weren't kept up to date with the code. Having to check types and their REST API and 'suck it and see' to actually find out how it works. If you want contributors, your OSS project should have working demos. If you want customers, the same.

2. Unnecessary complexity. I think there's going to be a major change in the front end world in the next few years as people realise they can already achieve reactive data binding without the complexity of popular frameworks.

Re: Ask HN: Programs that wasted you 100 hours?

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Microsoft Outlook, no question: - It hangs all the time for a few seconds at a time, - The search is moronic (how about you look on the server and on my computer at the same time instead of hanging for a while and then displaying that dumbass message offering the option to search on my computer instead when there's a problem with the connection?), - Switching to the unread message view regularly results in a progress…

Wow! Had a CEO once try to convert the company from Gsuit to office/teams so he could use Outlook. Figured it was great...

Re: Ask HN: Programs that wasted you 100 hours?

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post #41

In addition to the already mentioned MS Office pieces: • Android programming. Tried it once, wasted many days trying to make sure the app works on all phone models ranging from $10 to $1000. There were some hardware-related parts that are poorly standardized and abused by the manufacturers a lot. And yeah, the $10-$1000 range coverage is a bit too much for such a poorly designed platform. • Inkscape: if you are a per…

> Android programming. Android Studio and Gradle can both die in a fire - how anyone manages to actually write a decent app with those two, is completely beyond me.

Wow! I'm honestly surprised. I find that environment to be great and nearly trouble free. Used it on Windows to build a native multiplayer game.

Re: Ask HN: Programs that wasted you 100 hours?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm curious, can you share an example of what you mean? My experience has typically been the opposite.

Don't know what exactly he means, but I have a similar feeling. My area is a performance-oriented close-to-metal backend, but when I have to do something in the UI I find it extremely opinionated and 90% of the code you read is to make angular work while 10% is for your actual task.

That is the point though. Front end is a hot mess, so Angular makes it opinionated so you don't have to spend time on lots of small design decisions.
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