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California, Oregon and Washington announce western states pact

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Re: California, Oregon and Washington announce western states pact

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Post by themodelplumber »

Yes. I love this from an executive-action standpoint. They are _doing_ something about something, in the face of a lot of fearful messaging. And that gives the rest of us an even better "emotional/energy vector" which is based on a promise of government support and action in support of business.

We are participants in the most creative and powerful world economy of all time. Regardless of geographical location, cultures are generally more unified and geared toward working together than ever. Markets have shown an impressive amount of resilience in the face of unprecedented fear messaging. People are ready to work hard; in fact they're wearing themselves out by working harder than they have before in many cases.

This is exactly the kind of action we need right now.

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Post by 0x8BADF00D »

themodelplumber wrote: post #11

Yes. I love this from an executive-action standpoint. They are _doing_ something about something, in the face of a lot of fearful messaging. And that gives the rest of us an even better "emotional/energy vector" which is based on a promise of government support and action in support of business. We are participants in the most creative and powerful world economy of all time. Regardless of geographical location, cultu…

Delusional take. The petrodollar system is collapsing. USD will not be the reserve currency for much longer.

Re: California, Oregon and Washington announce western states pact

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Post by mullingitover »

This is great, and it's a big chunk of population, but I keep feeling like we could do better. For example, these three States could do a great job, but there's nothing stopping a bunch of the other States from bungling it (like, say, ignoring health experts and exempting certain groups from mass gathering restrictions). Then those States end up exporting infectious individuals into the States which are doing things right, and creating more clusters.

If only we had some sort of united group of all the States, where the response could be coordinated and centralized for maximum effectiveness.

Re: California, Oregon and Washington announce western states pact

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Post by DoreenMichele »

As someone who lives in one of these states, I'm nonplussed at the announcement. It doesn't really seem to say anything concrete that I can tell.

"We've agreed that we will use metrics...we are still deciding what these metrics will be."

I thought the Stay Home, Stay Healthy order (in Washington state) wasn't unreasonable and wasn't just political babble, but I don't really know what to make of this piece. Anyone want to try to explain it like I'm five?

Re: California, Oregon and Washington announce western states pact

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Post by davidw »

mullingitover wrote: post #14

This is great, and it's a big chunk of population, but I keep feeling like we could do better. For example, these three States could do a great job, but there's nothing stopping a bunch of the other States from bungling it (like, say, ignoring health experts and exempting certain groups from mass gathering restrictions). Then those States end up exporting infectious individuals into the States which are doing things…

"Like having a pool with a 'peeing section'" is how I've read this piecemeal approach described.

Re: California, Oregon and Washington announce western states pact

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Post by bredren »

Doctor_Fegg wrote: post #4

Floreat Cascadia!

This was my thought as well. It is a desirable incremental move toward a regional definition of statehood.

For those unfamiliar, Cascadia is an independence movement around the NW bioregion of the United States: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascadia_(independence_movemen...

Edit to add more info:

While many Pacific NW folks are not familiar with Cascadia as an independence movement, fans of the Portland, Oregon soccer (football) team Portland Timbers often carry or fly the Cascadia independence movement's flag during games. Shown on the right side of this giant tifo:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2012/jun/28/portla...

Re: California, Oregon and Washington announce western states pact

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Post by jcranmer »

Also relevant is that the states of New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Connecticut, Rhode Island, and Delaware made a similar pact today.

Edit: Massachusetts has also joined this pact as well (I thought it was surprising that it hadn't when I first read the news).

Re: California, Oregon and Washington announce western states pact

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Post by new_time »

I love the United States' flexible decentralized model. Different states have sufficient autonomy to tinker and try different approaches, allowing the best ideas to emerge from the collective. It's one reason why the US is such a dynamic place, similar to Europe but with the additional benefit of unified language, culture (broadly), economy, and high level regulations.

It's truly a great system.

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