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Wildlife is reclaiming Yosemite National Park

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Re: Wildlife is reclaiming Yosemite National Park

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OT - One of my most personal profound moments was chasing this winter photo [0] and sharing it with a coyote. I wanted to take a night shot of the Cathedral Rock (that I had seen a few years earlier but didn't take a good photo of it) under the full moon and fresh snow. It took me several years of driving up to Yosemite when there was snow storm and one night I got lucky. It was around 11 PM when the storm stopped an…

awesome story and epic photo, thanks!

Re: Wildlife is reclaiming Yosemite National Park

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You do know that the bear population hasn't quadrupled in the park since the covid-19 shutdown, right? Bears don't have a gestation period of a month.

The population of my neighborhood has doubled since the shutdown as everyone's kids came back from college. No gestation involved.

Where would all these bears migrate from? Most bears aren't migratory creatures. Something would have to be driving them out of there homes elsewhere, if they are actually migrating.

Re: Wildlife is reclaiming Yosemite National Park

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s happening all around the world. Places like India has seen a remarkable drop in pollution levels. People are able to see Himalayas for the first time from their homes near by. Everest gets a break from the climbers. And even Ganges is showing levels of purity never seen before : https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/travel/destinations/gang... [..] When the ancient Yamuna River in Delhi has reached a remarkable le…

or treat your effluent, or avoid it in the first place? Pretty sure it would cost less than shutting everything down...

We would have done it already, no? Perhaps only punitive measures work. Pollution and environmental damage cannot be quantified ...it is invisible and we assume that it is a function of time.

But it isn’t..it is because of consumption and population growth(which leads to more consumption)

Re: Wildlife is reclaiming Yosemite National Park

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It's nice to know that the earth starts to heal so quickly after humans are gone. Although by the time we are actually gone we might make it uninhabitable for other life too.

Philosophical question: if humans are gone, does it really matter what happens to the earth?

Yes, of course. Things matter, even if there is no observer, (animals can observe in any case.) unless you're going to argue that "things mattering" is a matter of human perception in the first place.

Re: Wildlife is reclaiming Yosemite National Park

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OT - One of my most personal profound moments was chasing this winter photo [0] and sharing it with a coyote. I wanted to take a night shot of the Cathedral Rock (that I had seen a few years earlier but didn't take a good photo of it) under the full moon and fresh snow. It took me several years of driving up to Yosemite when there was snow storm and one night I got lucky. It was around 11 PM when the storm stopped an…

That's an absolutely amazing photo

Re: Wildlife is reclaiming Yosemite National Park

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I visited Yosemite, while beautiful, it is so commercialized. It feels like disney world for nature. It did not seem wild at all in the valley. More like a hippy tent city, with a pioneer village. I saw some deer, wanted to take a photo from maybe 200 feet away. And I literally could take photo with two other photographers in my line sight with the deer. It was a little ridiculous. 3 in one head shot. And a little mo…

Yosemite Valley is about 2% of the total area of Yosemite National Park. It's deliberately concentrated so that most of Yosemite can remain wilderness.

Re: Wildlife is reclaiming Yosemite National Park

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I visited Yosemite, while beautiful, it is so commercialized. It feels like disney world for nature. It did not seem wild at all in the valley. More like a hippy tent city, with a pioneer village. I saw some deer, wanted to take a photo from maybe 200 feet away. And I literally could take photo with two other photographers in my line sight with the deer. It was a little ridiculous. 3 in one head shot. And a little mo…

That's a problem I have with Parks. There is a conflicting mandate. They 'protect' but they also 'promote'. My parents took us up to Yosemite on weekend trips in the summer growing up. 50 years ago they tended to studiously avoid the valley proper. The farther you're willing to hike the fewer people and more bears and Germans.

Germans?

Re: Wildlife is reclaiming Yosemite National Park

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> This month is typically a busy month in Yosemite: Of the almost 4.6 million tourists that visited the valley in 2019, about 308,000 came during April. "This month is typically a busy one: less than 1/12th of the number of annual visitors." ️

The total is skewed by visitors in July, August, and September. During that 3 month period, approximately 50% of total annual visitors visit the Park, with July and August each routinely exceeding 600k visitors/month.

Traffic jams getting into and out of the park in July and August can last for 4-5 hours and extend nearly 30 miles.

Re: Wildlife is reclaiming Yosemite National Park

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As noted in the article, the headline is misleading. The population obviously hasn't quadrupled since Yosemite closed to visitors on March 20th. It is remarkable though to see how quickly wildlife is willing to re-enter areas that have historically been overrun with humans!

In Yosemite specifically, the bears and bobcats have been trying to push into the built up areas of the park forever. Of course this used to be because the human area was guaranteed food but now it's probably just curiosity. In Yosemite, the rangers are very good about not killing/injuring the wildlife and only driving them away.

The typical ranger response is either paintball guns or pepper spray so the animals don't think humans are a threat, just that the food is not worth paintballs and pepper spray. With no humans to push them back, they'll take over the park scouring for the food that they expect to find.

Most national parks operate on a strike system for the wildlife, Yosemite is the only one I'm aware of that will keep annoying a bear away even if it steals food every day for a week.

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