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Colornames.org – A collaborative effort to name all 16.7M colors

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Re: Colornames.org – A collaborative effort to name all 16.7M colors

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post #9

I'm curious—is there a point to giving two separate names to two colors which are indistinguishable from one another to the human eye? There are zero people in the world who can tell #FF4500 from #FF4501, so aren't they effectively the same color?

By induction, doesn’t that mean we would only have one color name?

If that were so that would mean induction was a bad thing.

Re: Colornames.org – A collaborative effort to name all 16.7M colors

#52
post #39
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think Perenti is just joking. I'm colourblind myself. I mind when eg UI elements or real world distinctions are _only_ communicated by hue (instead of also using texture, brightness, saturation, shape, text, etc); but I don't think anyone can mind less disabled people making full use of the facilities they have.

Although mostly tongue in cheek, I do think the lack of awareness by some UI designers is a real issue. I've also found IDE syntax colouring schemes that are just too hard. I've also found posters and signs where important information is in colours/shades that I can't discriminate between. Sometimes I wonder if there should be a law that prevents safety information being green on brown, or brown on green, or the wron…

I am wary of adding extra laws. Especially ones that are hard to enforce. Luckily, I found that people seem to be paying more attention to accessibility than they did in the past.

Eg Game Maker's Toolkit has a video series about 'designing for disability', see eg their 'Colourblindness & Low Vision' entry at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrqdU4cZaLw

One of their points is that lots of adjustments made to assist people with disabilities can also help normal people grasp information quicker or in unusual circumstances.

Re: Colornames.org – A collaborative effort to name all 16.7M colors

#55
I would if they restrict names to be two or rarely three words and avoid punctuation. Also, I think they should advise against humorous/jocular names and ask people to suggest brief but descriptive names.

I was voting on suggested names, very many are those jocular names, overlong and with too much punctuation that does not really serve the purpose.

Re: Colornames.org – A collaborative effort to name all 16.7M colors

#56
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your suggestion was that if two colors are indistinguishable, they should have that name. But given any two colors A and B you can construct a sequence C1 = A, C2, C3, ..., Cn = B where adjacent colors Ci and Ci+1 are indistinguishable from each other, and so need the same name, for 1 <= i < n. Hence, A and B have to have the same name.

The problem with your argument is that indistinguishable doesn't mean the equal. I'm not saying there is no difference between adjacent colors. I'm saying that the difference is indistinguishable. A lot of indistinguishable differences add to a distinguishable difference. Think about it with numbers: if your sequence A, B, C... are each zero units apart, then yes, A = B = C = ... In actuality, though, they are not ze…

Any two adjacent colors must either have the same name or different names.

Re: Colornames.org – A collaborative effort to name all 16.7M colors

#57

I'm curious—is there a point to giving two separate names to two colors which are indistinguishable from one another to the human eye? There are zero people in the world who can tell #FF4500 from #FF4501, so aren't they effectively the same color?

Sure.

And conversely, there are infinitely more colors than that particular digital representation can express.

Re: Colornames.org – A collaborative effort to name all 16.7M colors

#58
post #49

Voting system kinda ruins it, ppl game it too much and bring in western cultural references a lot so their choice goes to the top instantly

Western cultural references are kind of unavoidable when naming things in English I think.

Re: Colornames.org – A collaborative effort to name all 16.7M colors

#59
post #48

Of course, 16.7M colors aren’t all colors, not even in “web space”. Enter color(display-p3). https://webkit.org/blog/10042/wide-gamut-color-in-css-with-d...

CSS Color Module 4, which introduced support for the DCI-P3 color space, also introduced support for the even larger ProPhoto RGB and Rec.2020 color spaces (as well as the similarly-sized Adobe RGB). These were already supported in media that could be embedded in web pages.
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