More discrimination against us colour blind people. The basic names are confusing enough - my housemate mentions something "green" when there's no such thing, he's talking about the brown one.
Can you suggest an alternative?
Colornames.org – A collaborative effort to name all 16.7M colors
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Re: Colornames.org – A collaborative effort to name all 16.7M colors
#32More discrimination against us colour blind people. The basic names are confusing enough - my housemate mentions something "green" when there's no such thing, he's talking about the brown one.
I sometimes wonder if there are actually that many colours, or whether people are just making up differences that don't exist.
They seem to have their conspiracy up and running pretty tight, though: when I ask different people, they usually give me the same answer. All very well prepared!
Re: Colornames.org – A collaborative effort to name all 16.7M colors
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
By induction, doesn’t that mean we would only have one color name?
I don't follow. Two given colors being indistinguishable doesn't imply that any two colors are indistinguishable.
Your suggestion was that if two colors are indistinguishable, they should have that name.
But given any two colors A and B you can construct a sequence C1 = A, C2, C3, ..., Cn = B where adjacent colors Ci and Ci+1 are indistinguishable from each other, and so need the same name, for 1 <= i < n. Hence, A and B have to have the same name.
Re: Colornames.org – A collaborative effort to name all 16.7M colors
#34More discrimination against us colour blind people. The basic names are confusing enough - my housemate mentions something "green" when there's no such thing, he's talking about the brown one.
Can you suggest an alternative?
I think Perenti is just joking.
I'm colourblind myself. I mind when eg UI elements or real world distinctions are _only_ communicated by hue (instead of also using texture, brightness, saturation, shape, text, etc); but I don't think anyone can mind less disabled people making full use of the facilities they have.
Re: Colornames.org – A collaborative effort to name all 16.7M colors
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't follow. Two given colors being indistinguishable doesn't imply that any two colors are indistinguishable.
Your suggestion was that if two colors are indistinguishable, they should have that name. But given any two colors A and B you can construct a sequence C1 = A, C2, C3, ..., Cn = B where adjacent colors Ci and Ci+1 are indistinguishable from each other, and so need the same name, for 1 <= i < n. Hence, A and B have to have the same name.
It's just the old paradox of the heap. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorites_paradox
Re: Colornames.org – A collaborative effort to name all 16.7M colors
#36So amused by this project as I struggle to give names beyond "copper", "blue", "dark green", etc.
Re: Colornames.org – A collaborative effort to name all 16.7M colors
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think in the case of telling two colors apart, it's can be as simple as presenting them side by side, and seeing if someone can distinguish a difference.
Not sure that is so simple unfortunately. First, because if I recursively apply your argument, then no color would have a name. Starting from the very 1st lowest color frequency and the 2nd right next to it, no-one could differentiate them. Apply the same logic between the 2nd and the 3rd, the 3rd and the 4th, etc. So you cannot apply this argument to "any" color pair. You would have to define a set of starting color…
You can get out of that argument by saying that colour names apply in different amounts to different hex-colours.
So #FF0000 is red. But is #FA0101 is also red, just slightly less so.
Re: Colornames.org – A collaborative effort to name all 16.7M colors
#38So I can give it my name?
They have a voting system, it seems.
Re: Colornames.org – A collaborative effort to name all 16.7M colors
#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you suggest an alternative?
I think Perenti is just joking. I'm colourblind myself. I mind when eg UI elements or real world distinctions are _only_ communicated by hue (instead of also using texture, brightness, saturation, shape, text, etc); but I don't think anyone can mind less disabled people making full use of the facilities they have.
Although mostly tongue in cheek, I do think the lack of awareness by some UI designers is a real issue. I've also found IDE syntax colouring schemes that are just too hard.
I've also found posters and signs where important information is in colours/shades that I can't discriminate between. Sometimes I wonder if there should be a law that prevents safety information being green on brown, or brown on green, or the wrong shades of red/green/brown together.
And no, I don't do domestic wiring, nor can I read many resistors.
Re: Colornames.org – A collaborative effort to name all 16.7M colors
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't follow. Two given colors being indistinguishable doesn't imply that any two colors are indistinguishable.
Your suggestion was that if two colors are indistinguishable, they should have that name. But given any two colors A and B you can construct a sequence C1 = A, C2, C3, ..., Cn = B where adjacent colors Ci and Ci+1 are indistinguishable from each other, and so need the same name, for 1 <= i < n. Hence, A and B have to have the same name.
So make Ci and Ci + 1 distinguishable. Problem solved.