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Steve Jobs' reality distortion takes its toll on truth

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Re: Steve Jobs' reality distortion takes its toll on truth

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Completely agree. I'm not exactly an apple fanboy, but I do love my iPad, and there isn't yet a competitor's device I'd want to replace it with (although I'm hoping BlackBerry's will change that). If he had come out and given all the ways that the iPad 2 is better than the iPad, I'd have been impressed. But spending half the time criticising competitors just came across as the kind of tacky tactic that really shouldn…

This has been happening for quite some time. One of the earnings call last year was more of Android-bashing than a talk about Apple's successes. EDIT: I believe it was Steve doing the talk back then too.

I think this is a sign that they're running scared a lot more than they're letting on.

It's only a matter of time before the iPad style tablet becomes commoditized. Quite a few years ago, Apple was one of the design leaders in the laptop space, then others caught up, more or less. The same thing happened in the smartphone space. The same thing will happen to tablets. In a way, they are subject to the same forces that Nokia is desperately trying to escape, except Apple has been smart and positioned themselves on the forefront of each wave, where it will lift them up. Nokia rode their wave too long.

Will Apple become a victim of their own success? Yes.

For the record, though, I think Steve Job's "reality distortion field" is sometimes actually an anti-distortion field. I think the consensus reality has some significant distortions, which he's good at seeing through. Then again, everyone who isn't Steve might have a hard time knowing which polarity the field is set to at any given moment.

Re: Steve Jobs' reality distortion takes its toll on truth

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Quite a large one, I'd imagine. The Nook and Kindle are a pretty far cry from the iPad in terms of capability. To me it seems like it's a very close parallel to a smart phone vs. a feature phone.

So you're saying the iPad has sold more than 90% of all devices that are like iPads? Seems verging on tautological to me.

Do any of the Kindles, etc. have touch sensitive main screens? 'Tablet' isn't exactly a new term and has implied a large touchscreen for a long time now. Seems a reasonable distinction considering the difference in how you interact with the devices.

Re: Steve Jobs' reality distortion takes its toll on truth

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Quite a large one, I'd imagine. The Nook and Kindle are a pretty far cry from the iPad in terms of capability. To me it seems like it's a very close parallel to a smart phone vs. a feature phone.

So you're saying the iPad has sold more than 90% of all devices that are like iPads? Seems verging on tautological to me.

Well, that's one advantage of being the first mass merket provider, you define the genre, like how Toyota has defined the crossover SUV because they were the first to build one.

But the actual hardware is half the story (or maybe 30%), these things will live and die with their respective app stores, which is a point Scroble made in his blog. Currently iPad is lightyears away.

As for the reader/tablet discussion: this will blur in the future. Amazon is getting their app store ready as we speak.

Re: Steve Jobs' reality distortion takes its toll on truth

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Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity

How much stupidity do you think is involved when billions of dollars are on the line?

Well, there are 435 US Congressional representatives.

Re: Steve Jobs' reality distortion takes its toll on truth

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post #8

Completely agree. I'm not exactly an apple fanboy, but I do love my iPad, and there isn't yet a competitor's device I'd want to replace it with (although I'm hoping BlackBerry's will change that). If he had come out and given all the ways that the iPad 2 is better than the iPad, I'd have been impressed. But spending half the time criticising competitors just came across as the kind of tacky tactic that really shouldn…

I agree that it seems negative and I'd rather he didn't do it, but I can see why he does. There are plenty of even less accurate commentators who are prepared to make analyses of the situation that are unfavorable to Apple. Most people don't take the time to critically analyze the 'news' they hear and are actually influenced by this stuff. Apple needs to at least state their viewpoint so that it is out there alongsid…

Is it so hard for you fanboys to say something like "Lying is wrong and he shouldn't have done it" and just leave it at that? No bullshit, no qualifications, no Gruber-style excuses, just a simple condemnation of someone doing something wrong.

Re: Steve Jobs' reality distortion takes its toll on truth

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So you're saying the iPad has sold more than 90% of all devices that are like iPads? Seems verging on tautological to me.

I'm pretty sure there's room for a distinction between iPad-style media/web tablets and the simpler "reader" type ones like the Kindle and Nook.

I'm not arguing that, but remember the nook-color has internet, wifi, games and an app-store. Is that an e-reader or a tablet?

(Note: that's all if you don't root it, those who do can do pretty much anything on it that android can do)

Re: Steve Jobs' reality distortion takes its toll on truth

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Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity

How much stupidity do you think is involved when billions of dollars are on the line?

On a long enough timeline, everyone is an imbecile.

Re: Steve Jobs' reality distortion takes its toll on truth

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How much of an Jobs/Apple hater do you have to be before you include Nook and Kindle in the tablet market to argue that the iPad share is actually close to 50?

Quite a large one, I'd imagine. The Nook and Kindle are a pretty far cry from the iPad in terms of capability. To me it seems like it's a very close parallel to a smart phone vs. a feature phone.

The Kindle doesn't make for much of a tablet, but I think the Nook is something I'd enjoy owning as a gearhead. Not sure if normal people would get the same thing out of it, though.

Re: Steve Jobs' reality distortion takes its toll on truth

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Just emphasizing is not a big deal. Giving numbers that are outright wrong is a problem. This is common practice. "Everyone does that" is no excuse.

Which numbers were outright wrong?

The claim about 90% market share.

Price comparison, while not outright wrong, is still stretching the truth a bit. "Smooth/small" thing too.

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